{"conversationCode":"038-108","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":108,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-108","startDateTime":"1973-04-19T18:36:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-19T18:39:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Apr-1973","startTime":"1:36 PM","endDate":"19-Apr-1973","endTime":"1:39 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On April 19, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:36 pm and 1:39 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-108 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-108\n\nDate: April 19, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 1:36 pm and 1:39 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n     Telephone call to Ronald L. Ziegler","filename":["038-108.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"038-107","nextCode":"038-109","transcript":[{"start":0.39,"end":3.4,"text":"Ron Ziegler, please."},{"start":3.42,"end":10.45,"text":"Thank you, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon initiates a brief telephone call to White House Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler. The President requests that the operator connect him directly to Ziegler to facilitate a private communication. No substantive policy matters or further developments are discussed during this short administrative interaction.","topics":["Ronald L. Ziegler","Communication","Presidential staff","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:37:32.968Z"},"topicSlugs":["ronald-l-ziegler","communication","presidential-staff","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":11,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-108.mp3","bytes":339968,"durationSec":10.51,"bitrate":258858,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.069Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-108.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-108","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-108","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}