{"conversationCode":"038-117","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":117,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-117","startDateTime":"1973-04-19T22:03:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-19T22:04:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Apr-1973","startTime":"5:03 PM","endDate":"19-Apr-1973","endTime":"5:04 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ehrlichman, John D.;","description":"On April 19, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman talked on the telephone from 5:03 pm to 5:04 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-117 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-117\n\nDate: April 19, 1973\nTime: 5:03 pm - 5:04 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with John D. Ehrlichman.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 429-16A]\n\n     Ehrlichman’s schedule\n\n     Ehrlichman’s location","filename":["038-117.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ehrlichman, John D."],"prevCode":"038-116","nextCode":"038-118","transcript":[{"start":1.26,"end":1.74,"text":"Hello."},{"start":1.88,"end":2.29,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":3.25,"end":4.51,"text":"Would you like to take about a 10-minute break?"},{"start":5.35,"end":5.73,"text":"Fine."},{"start":5.87,"end":6.36,"text":"You got time?"},{"start":6.74,"end":9.34,"text":"Yeah, it'll take me about five minutes to get there."},{"start":9.36,"end":10.61,"text":"I've just finished having a shower."},{"start":11.67,"end":12.45,"text":"Are you home?"},{"start":12.47,"end":12.81,"text":"No, no."},{"start":13.01,"end":14.65,"text":"No, I'm downstairs in the gym."},{"start":14.78,"end":18.02,"text":"I just had a shower, and I can be up in a few minutes."},{"start":18.36,"end":18.77,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and John Ehrlichman coordinate a brief, informal meeting while at the White House. The conversation focuses on logistics, with Nixon suggesting a ten-minute break and Ehrlichman confirming he is located in the gym and can meet the President shortly. No substantive policy matters are discussed, as the exchange is limited to scheduling their immediate encounter.","topics":["Scheduling","Logistics","John Ehrlichman","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:38:22.632Z"},"topicSlugs":["scheduling","logistics","john-d-ehrlichman","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":25,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-117.mp3","bytes":813056,"durationSec":25.28,"bitrate":257296,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.069Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-117.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-117","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/038/conversation-038-117","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}