{"conversationCode":"038-122","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":122,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-122","startDateTime":"1973-04-19T22:58:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-19T22:59:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Apr-1973","startTime":"5:58 PM","endDate":"19-Apr-1973","endTime":"5:59 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ehrlichman, John D.;","description":"On April 19, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman talked on the telephone from 5:58 pm to 5:59 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-122 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-122\n\nDate: April 19, 1973\nTime: 5:58 pm - 5:59 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with John D. Ehrlichman.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 429-19]\n\n     Ehrlichman’s meeting with Charles W. Colson","filename":["038-122.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ehrlichman, John D."],"prevCode":"038-121","nextCode":"038-123","transcript":[{"start":1.45,"end":1.77,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":1.91,"end":2.25,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":3.07,"end":3.88,"text":"What's that mystery?"},{"start":4.44,"end":5.62,"text":"He's just walking in the door."},{"start":5.64,"end":7.03,"text":"I haven't had a chance to talk to him."},{"start":7.85,"end":9.15,"text":"He wasn't here when I got over."},{"start":9.19,"end":11.36,"text":"So let me ask him and I'll call you right back."},{"start":12.16,"end":12.54,"text":"One minute."},{"start":12.77,"end":14.07,"text":"I'd like to leave in two or three minutes."},{"start":14.19,"end":14.31,"text":"Right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and John Ehrlichman touch base regarding an imminent meeting with Charles Colson. The brief call serves to coordinate schedules as the President prepares to depart the office shortly. Ehrlichman indicates he needs to consult with Colson before reporting back to the President with a status update.","topics":["Charles Colson","scheduling","Watergate-era administration","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:38:50.215Z"},"topicSlugs":["charles-colson","scheduling","watergate-era-administration","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":21,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-122.mp3","bytes":671744,"durationSec":20.88,"bitrate":257373,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.070Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-122.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-122","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-122","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}