{"conversationCode":"038-130","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":130,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-130","startDateTime":"1973-04-20T17:02:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-20T17:04:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Apr-1973","startTime":"12:02 PM","endDate":"20-Apr-1973","endTime":"12:04 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On April 20, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:02 pm and 12:04 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-130 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-130\n\nDate: April 20, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 12:02 pm and 12:04 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 903-15]\n\n     Telephone call to Patrick J. Buchanan","filename":["038-130.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"038-129","nextCode":"038-131","transcript":[{"start":0.76,"end":6.08,"text":"Let's get back, Buchanan, please."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon initiates a brief request to the White House operator to place a telephone call to his advisor, Patrick J. Buchanan. The conversation serves solely as a procedural instruction to establish a connection with Buchanan. No further discussion or policy matters are addressed during this brief exchange.","topics":["Patrick J. Buchanan","White House operations","Presidential communication"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:39:33.598Z"},"topicSlugs":["patrick-j-buchanan","white-house-operations","presidential-communication"],"audioDurationSec":13,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-130.mp3","bytes":432128,"durationSec":13.43,"bitrate":257474,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.069Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-130.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-130","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-130","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}