{"conversationCode":"038-135","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":135,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-135","startDateTime":"1973-04-25T13:17:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-25T13:17:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Apr-1973","startTime":"8:17 AM","endDate":"25-Apr-1973","endTime":"8:17 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"White House operator; Nixon, Richard M. (President);","description":"On April 25, 1973, White House operator and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at 8:17 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-135 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-135\n\nDate: April 25, 1973\nTime: 8:17 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe White House operator talked with the President.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 904-3]\n\n     Henry E. Petersen’s location","filename":["038-135.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["White House operator","Nixon, Richard M. (President)"],"prevCode":"038-134","nextCode":"038-136","transcript":[{"start":0.74,"end":1.85,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":1.87,"end":3.3,"text":"Mr. Predden, Henry Peterson is a mooch."},{"start":3.4,"end":5.47,"text":"They all must be there about 10 minutes or less for him to call you."},{"start":5.49,"end":6.07,"text":"All right."},{"start":6.11,"end":6.44,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":6.5,"end":7.44,"text":"You're welcome."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"A White House operator coordinates with President Nixon to facilitate an urgent communication with Assistant Attorney General Henry E. Petersen. The President seeks to confirm Petersen’s current availability, as he is expected to initiate a call to the White House within minutes. This brief exchange serves to prepare the President for a critical, time-sensitive discussion regarding ongoing legal or investigative matters.","topics":["Henry E. Petersen","Watergate investigation","Presidential communication","Department of Justice"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:40:00.733Z"},"topicSlugs":["henry-e-petersen","watergate-investigation","presidential-communication","department-of-justice"],"audioDurationSec":13,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-135.mp3","bytes":432128,"durationSec":13.39,"bitrate":258243,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.070Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-135.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-135","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-135","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}