{"conversationCode":"038-136","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":136,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-136","startDateTime":"1973-04-25T13:17:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-25T13:25:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Apr-1973","startTime":"8:17 AM","endDate":"25-Apr-1973","endTime":"8:25 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On April 25, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:17 am and 8:25 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-136 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-136\n\nDate: April 25, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 8:17 am and 8:25 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 904-5]\n\n     Message for Henry E. Petersen","filename":["038-136.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"038-135","nextCode":"038-137","transcript":[{"start":3.07,"end":9.11,"text":"Operator, I have a call in for Mr. Peterson, but I have to step out for a little while, so tell him I'll call him back in about 30 minutes."},{"start":9.35,"end":16.76,"text":"Yes, sir, I will."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon instructed the White House operator to relay a message to Assistant Attorney General Henry E. Petersen regarding a scheduled call. He requested that the operator inform Petersen of a temporary delay, noting that he would initiate the follow-up conversation in approximately 30 minutes. This communication served as a brief administrative coordination to manage his schedule while dealing with the Justice Department.","topics":["Henry E. Petersen","White House operations","Scheduling","Justice Department","Executive communications"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:40:06.313Z"},"topicSlugs":["henry-e-petersen","white-house-operations","scheduling","justice-department","executive-communications"],"audioDurationSec":17,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-136.mp3","bytes":538624,"durationSec":16.72,"bitrate":257714,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.070Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-136.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-136","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-136","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}