{"conversationCode":"038-158","tapeNumber":38,"conversationNumber":158,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-038-158","startDateTime":"1973-04-26T00:53:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-26T01:20:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Apr-1973","startTime":"7:53 PM","endDate":"25-Apr-1973","endTime":"8:20 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On April 25, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 7:53 pm and 8:20 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 038-158 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 38-158\n\nDate: April 25, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 7:53 pm and 8:20 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 430-38]\n\n     Telephone call to Richard G. Kleindienst","filename":["038-158.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"038-157","nextCode":"038-159","transcript":[{"start":3.58,"end":12.07,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon utilized the White House operator to initiate an outgoing telephone call to Attorney General Richard G. Kleindienst. The brief exchange served as a logistical step to connect the President with his chief law enforcement officer. This communication reflects the active coordination occurring between the White House and the Department of Justice during the escalating Watergate investigations.","topics":["Richard G. Kleindienst","White House communications","Watergate investigation","Presidential logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:42:05.253Z"},"topicSlugs":["richard-g-kleindienst","white-house-communications","watergate-investigation","presidential-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":12,"audioFiles":[{"file":"038-158.mp3","bytes":389120,"durationSec":12.07,"bitrate":257980,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.069Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/038-158.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/038-158","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/38/conversation-038-158","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}