Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 039-005 Date: Thursday, May 24, 1973 at 1:39 PM Participants: White House operator; Nixon, Richard M. (President); Arends, Leslie C. Recording device: White House Telephone Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/039-005 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:01] Congressman Aaron, sir. [0:02] Hello. [0:03] You are. [0:04] How did your boys like the meeting? [0:05] Oh, they loved it. [0:07] They loved it. [0:08] And really, it was perfect. [0:09] I thought we ought to do it perhaps about every couple months, don't you think? [0:13] Yeah. [0:13] Not too often, you know, it doesn't mean much to them. [0:15] And, you know, about whenever you think they need a little... [0:19] of our morale today. [0:21] It's all great. [0:21] It's better. [0:22] It's so much better. [0:23] Is it beginning to pick up? [0:24] It's beginning to pick up, and I think you can just sense the change coming on. [0:27] That statement is getting around. [0:29] Everybody reading it, I hope they are. [0:30] We did. [0:31] We saw to it they got it. [0:32] Right. [0:33] One point that ought to be made very strongly is this, that truly the tragedy is, I'm going to say to the POWs in a few minutes, that [0:39] you have a situation where they make national heroes out of those that steal secrets and then condemn those and try to protect the national security. [0:46] Because I said without secret diplomacy, there would have been no China initiative, no Soviet initiative, and these guys would still be in that damn big pen in Hanoi. [0:55] Terrific point. [0:55] If that's hard, will you? [0:57] I will. [0:57] And I'm going back out home this week and make some speeches. [1:00] Very well, boy. [1:02] Thank you. [1:02] Well, Mr. President, I think what you said about national defense last night was terrific those last few minutes. [1:07] Now, some way we ought to get our boys in the aggregate, maybe, or somehow, so they understand it just the way you said it last night. [1:15] I can say it to somebody else, but... One day. [1:19] Yeah. [1:19] When you really come to a bunch of old IMA, come down and talk to them yourself. [1:23] Oh, I think that would be terrific. [1:25] That would be absolutely terrific. [1:26] It would be a change of pace, and that would be good. [1:28] Right. [1:29] Yeah. [1:29] Okay, good. [1:30] We'll see you tonight. [1:31] Right. [1:31] Okay.