Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 39 › Conversation 039-027

Nixon, Rogers & Sisco on Middle East and United Nations Security Council

Tuesday, May 29, 1973 · 9:58 AM–10:45 AM ET · White House Telephone · 1 min

ParticipantsWhite House operator; Nixon, Richard M. (President); Rogers, William P.; Sisco, Joseph J.Conversation039-027 on Tape 39StartTuesday, May 29, 1973 at 9:58 AMEndTuesday, May 29, 1973 at 10:45 AMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 039-027 ↗

President Nixon, Secretary of State William P. Rogers, and Assistant Secretary Joseph J. Sisco discussed the development of a statement for U.S. Ambassador to the UN John A. Scali regarding Security Council operations. The participants coordinated how Scali should address the press following his meeting with the President. Additionally, the conversation touched upon the ongoing Paris peace negotiations, with Nixon suggesting that Henry Kissinger personally brief Rogers on the latest developments.

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Yeah.
I'm Assistant Secretary Sisko for Secretary Rogers.
Yeah.
Hello.
Welcome back.
Thank you very much.
Say, I'm over at the White House now, and we were talking about the Scali statement.
I'm not familiar with that.
Can you fill me in briefly on it?
Well, Scali said he was going to...
see the president sometime on the Security Council operation.
He said, I will be hit by the press.
Is there something I can say?
So we developed here three paragraphs, which are really basically a restatement of our position.
Did you go to Paris?
No, Roy did.
And we'll fill you in.
Well, I think Henry wants to fill you in himself so that if you're over there and Henry is there, maybe you could both get a few minutes.
And I'd like to talk to you about all of that later on.
Okay, fine, Joe.
Thank you very much.
Bye.

On May 29, 1973, White House operator, President Richard M. Nixon, William P. Rogers, and Joseph J. Sisco talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:58 am and 10:45 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 039-027 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 39-27

Date: May 29, 1973
Time: Unknown between 9:58 am and 10:45 am
Location: White House Telephone

The White House operator talked with the President.

[See also Conversation No. 929-7B]

       Incoming telephone call

William P. Rogers talked with Joseph J. Sisco.

       Middle East
             -John A. Scali’s proposed statement
                    -United Nations [UN] Security Council
                            -Meeting with President
                            -Press coverage
                    -State Department’s role

       Vietnam
             -Paris peace negotiations
             -Sisco’s schedule
                     -Roy [Last name unknown]
             -Henry A. Kissinger’s possible briefing of Rogers
             -Sisco’s possible conversation with Rogers
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  • 929-004 9:12 AM · 40 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at 9:12 am.
  • 929-005 9:12 AM · 1 hr 17 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:12 am to 9:48 am.
  • 929-006 9:48 AM · 55 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:48 am and 9:58 am.
  • 039-026 9:58 AM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:58 am and 10:45 am.
  • 929-007 9:58 AM · 1 hr 53 min — President Richard M. Nixon, William P. Rogers, White House operator, Joseph J. Sisco, unknown person(s), John A. Scali, Henry A. Kissinger, White House photographer, and members of the press met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:58 am to 11:06 am.
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  • 929-020 11:06 AM · 31 sec — unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:06 am and 12:07 pm.

Conversation 039-027, May 29, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/039-027 (accessed October 12, 2026).