{"conversationCode":"039-027","tapeNumber":39,"conversationNumber":27,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-039-027","startDateTime":"1973-05-29T13:58:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-29T14:45:00.000Z","startDate":"29-May-1973","startTime":"9:58 AM","endDate":"29-May-1973","endTime":"10:45 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"White House operator; Nixon, Richard M. (President); Rogers, William P.; Sisco, Joseph J.;","description":"On May 29, 1973, White House operator, President Richard M. Nixon, William P. Rogers, and Joseph J. Sisco talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:58 am and 10:45 am. 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Scali’s proposed statement\n                    -United Nations [UN] Security Council\n                            -Meeting with President\n                            -Press coverage\n                    -State Department’s role\n\n       Vietnam\n             -Paris peace negotiations\n             -Sisco’s schedule\n                     -Roy [Last name unknown]\n             -Henry A. Kissinger’s possible briefing of Rogers\n             -Sisco’s possible conversation with Rogers","filename":["039-027.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["White House operator","Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Rogers, William P.","Sisco, Joseph J."],"prevCode":"039-026","nextCode":"039-028","transcript":[{"start":0.49,"end":1.45,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":1.65,"end":4.11,"text":"I'm Assistant Secretary Sisko for Secretary Rogers."},{"start":4.21,"end":4.45,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":7.26,"end":8.22,"text":"Hello."},{"start":8.24,"end":8.92,"text":"Welcome back."},{"start":9.26,"end":9.84,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":10.36,"end":15.33,"text":"Say, I'm over at the White House now, and we were talking about the Scali statement."},{"start":15.37,"end":16.27,"text":"I'm not familiar with that."},{"start":16.29,"end":17.54,"text":"Can you fill me in briefly on it?"},{"start":18.88,"end":21.7,"text":"Well, Scali said he was going to..."},{"start":22.04,"end":27.41,"text":"see the president sometime on the Security Council operation."},{"start":28.23,"end":30.71,"text":"He said, I will be hit by the press."},{"start":30.85,"end":32.08,"text":"Is there something I can say?"},{"start":32.2,"end":38.47,"text":"So we developed here three paragraphs, which are really basically a restatement of our position."},{"start":39.47,"end":40.67,"text":"Did you go to Paris?"},{"start":41.6,"end":42.78,"text":"No, Roy did."},{"start":42.76,"end":44.04,"text":"And we'll fill you in."},{"start":44.24,"end":51.48,"text":"Well, I think Henry wants to fill you in himself so that if you're over there and Henry is there, maybe you could both get a few minutes."},{"start":51.5,"end":53.93,"text":"And I'd like to talk to you about all of that later on."},{"start":53.95,"end":54.37,"text":"Okay, fine, Joe."},{"start":54.39,"end":54.99,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":55.79,"end":55.87,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon, Secretary of State William P. 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