{"conversationCode":"039-028","tapeNumber":39,"conversationNumber":28,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-039-028","startDateTime":"1973-05-29T17:44:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-29T17:45:00.000Z","startDate":"29-May-1973","startTime":"1:44 PM","endDate":"29-May-1973","endTime":"1:45 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"White House operator; Nixon, Richard M. (President); Hart, Thomas;","description":"On May 29, 1973, White House operator, President Richard M. Nixon, and Thomas Hart talked on the telephone from 1:44 pm to 1:45 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 039-028 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 39-28\n\nDate: May 29, 1973\nTime: 1:44 pm - 1:45 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe White House operator talked with the President.\n\f                                             -26-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                            Conversation No. 39-28 (cont’d)\n\n       Incoming telephone call\n\nThe President talked with Thomas Hart.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 440-58]\n\n       Ronald L. Ziegler’s schedule\n             -Briefing\n             -Meeting with President","filename":["039-028.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["White House operator","Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Hart, Thomas"],"prevCode":"039-027","nextCode":"039-029","transcript":[{"start":0.45,"end":1.52,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":2.8,"end":5.95,"text":"Has he finished his briefing yet?"},{"start":6.03,"end":8.15,"text":"Ron, he should be through any moment."},{"start":8.72,"end":9.74,"text":"Do you want to see him right away?"},{"start":9.78,"end":11.26,"text":"He can come over when he's finished."},{"start":11.44,"end":12.07,"text":"Fine, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon initiates a brief telephone call to determine the status of Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler’s current briefing session. Upon learning that the briefing is nearing completion, the President instructs that Ziegler be sent to meet with him immediately. The primary purpose of the communication is to facilitate a direct follow-up meeting between the President and his press secretary.","topics":["Ronald L. Ziegler","White House operations","Presidential scheduling","Press relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:45:03.330Z"},"topicSlugs":["ronald-l-ziegler","white-house-operations","presidential-scheduling","press-relations"],"audioDurationSec":19,"audioFiles":[{"file":"039-028.mp3","bytes":622592,"durationSec":19.35,"bitrate":257446,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.071Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:42.802Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/039-028.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/039-028","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/039/conversation-039-028","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}