{"conversationCode":"039-038","tapeNumber":39,"conversationNumber":38,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-039-038","startDateTime":"1973-06-03T22:36:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-03T22:40:00.000Z","startDate":"3-Jun-1973","startTime":"6:36 PM","endDate":"3-Jun-1973","endTime":"6:40 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On June 3, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 6:36 pm and 6:40 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 039-038 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 39-38\n\nDate: June 3, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 6:36 pm and 6:40 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n       Request for telephone call to Ronald L. Ziegler","filename":["039-038.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"039-037","nextCode":"039-039","transcript":[{"start":0.42,"end":3.3,"text":"Mr. Ziegler, please."},{"start":3.32,"end":5.87,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon initiates a routine request to the White House operator to be connected with Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler. The brief communication serves solely as a logistical directive to facilitate a telephone call between the President and his senior aide. No further substantive policy matters or decisions are discussed during this administrative exchange.","topics":["Ronald L. Ziegler","White House operations","Presidential communications","administrative logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:46:01.082Z"},"topicSlugs":["ronald-l-ziegler","white-house-operations","presidential-communications","administrative-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":11,"audioFiles":[{"file":"039-038.mp3","bytes":344064,"durationSec":10.67,"bitrate":258047,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.070Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/039-038.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/039-038","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/39/conversation-039-038","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}