Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 039-053
Date: Sunday, June 3, 1973 at 9:46 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.
Recording device: White House Telephone
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/039-053

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[0:00] Yeah.
[0:02] Ron, one thing that occurred to me, just curious, how does this fit in with your theory that you had some time that Dean really wasn't out to get the president, you know, that sort of thing?
[0:13] It sort of runs contrary to that, doesn't it?
[0:15] Well, I think it does.
[0:19] I think his advisers probably are pushing him in this direction.
[0:24] Yeah.
[0:24] I don't think his—I still believe that his personality—
[0:29] and his conviction is out to get the president.
[0:34] I think most of this is just, excuse me, self-focused and pushed by his advisors.
[0:42] His lawyers.
[0:42] His lawyers and others, who probably are out to get the president.
[0:46] Sure.
[0:47] And also figure that this is the only way they're going to get him off.
[0:50] That I think is probably the motive, yes, sir.
[0:54] Yeah.
[0:55] Okay, thanks.
[0:56] But as a man, I don't...
[0:58] I still believe that he is not out viciously to get the president.
[1:05] You really think so, huh?
[1:08] Excuse me, I think so, yes, sir.
[1:10] Okay.
[1:10] Okay.