{"conversationCode":"039-069","tapeNumber":39,"conversationNumber":69,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-039-069","startDateTime":"1973-06-04T17:26:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-04T17:27:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Jun-1973","startTime":"1:26 PM","endDate":"4-Jun-1973","endTime":"1:27 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On June 4, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 1:26 pm to 1:27 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 039-069 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":"Abuse of Governmental Power Release","aogpSegment":"Segment 0","lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 39-69\n\nDate: June 4, 1973\nTime: 1:26 pm - 1:27 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 442-19]\n\n       Watergate\n             -White House tapes\n                    -President’s review of meetings with John W. Dean, III\n                           -Meetings, April 16\n                                   -Duration\n                                           -Morning meeting, afternoon meeting","filename":["039-069.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"039-068","nextCode":"039-070","transcript":[{"start":0.81,"end":5.23,"text":"Steve, so that I don't waste time, I might as well get the 16th over and I'll run through that."},{"start":5.25,"end":7.22,"text":"That isn't a very long meeting, is it?"},{"start":7.24,"end":10.6,"text":"I don't know how long it runs on the tape, sir."},{"start":11.44,"end":12.74,"text":"Yeah, I don't know."},{"start":12.8,"end":18.67,"text":"Maybe you can't even figure it out because I met him very briefly in the morning and then at noon."},{"start":19.33,"end":26.02,"text":"You had a 40-minute meeting in the morning on April 16th and a 30-minute meeting around 4.15 on the 16th, sir."},{"start":33.95,"end":35.17,"text":"Let's see, wait a minute, wait a minute."},{"start":35.59,"end":36.79,"text":"40 minute meeting in the morning?"},{"start":37.2,"end":37.45,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":48.17,"end":49.33,"text":"Okay, we'll send it over then."},{"start":49.49,"end":50.17,"text":"That's good."},{"start":50.19,"end":52.3,"text":"I'll get that over as soon as I can, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to verify the duration and nature of his April 16, 1973, meetings with John W. Dean III. The two men confirmed that Nixon held a 40-minute morning session and a 30-minute afternoon session with Dean. Nixon decided to have the relevant recordings sent to him for personal review as part of his ongoing examination of the Watergate-related tapes.","topics":["Watergate","White House tapes","John W. Dean III","Presidential review","Record keeping"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:48:58.217Z"},"topicSlugs":["watergate","white-house-tapes","john-w-dean-iii","presidential-review","record-keeping"],"audioDurationSec":59,"audioFiles":[{"file":"039-069.mp3","bytes":1884160,"durationSec":58.8,"bitrate":256348,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.071Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/039-069.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/039-069","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/039/conversation-039-069","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}