{"conversationCode":"039-077","tapeNumber":39,"conversationNumber":77,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-039-077","startDateTime":"1973-06-04T18:27:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-04T18:29:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Jun-1973","startTime":"2:27 PM","endDate":"4-Jun-1973","endTime":"2:29 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On June 4, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 2:27 pm to 2:29 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 039-077 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":"Abuse of Governmental Power Release","aogpSegment":"Segment 0","lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 39-77\n\nDate: June 4, 1973\nTime: 2:27 pm - 2:29 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 442-30]\n\n       Watergate\n             -White House tapes\n                    -Bull’s review\n                    -Location\n                            -Timing of delivery\n                    -Meeting, March 6\n                    -Individual in charge\n                    -Bull’s work station\n                    -Meeting, April 16\n\f                                              -58-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                             Conversation No. 39-78 (cont’d)","filename":["039-077.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"039-076","nextCode":"039-078","transcript":[{"start":0.47,"end":2.43,"text":"How are we coming, Steve?"},{"start":2.45,"end":2.81,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":2.83,"end":7.54,"text":"I've got the morning and the 16th racked up, and I've just located the afternoon meeting."},{"start":8.4,"end":9.86,"text":"Just what?"},{"start":9.96,"end":12.04,"text":"On April 16th, sir."},{"start":12.86,"end":15.63,"text":"I said I've got to have the March stuff first."},{"start":16.09,"end":17.51,"text":"They're going after that now."},{"start":17.79,"end":23.68,"text":"It's all kept in a safe in another building, and he's bringing me all of the March material."},{"start":24.2,"end":25.32,"text":"I've not yet received that."},{"start":26.52,"end":28.5,"text":"It's a physical process of having to go and get it."},{"start":32.4,"end":35.96,"text":"Hopefully to get it with Steve about something I'll know how to plan."},{"start":36.7,"end":37.98,"text":"Hopefully within the next half hour, sir."},{"start":48.12,"end":53.71,"text":"There are quite a few tips on there as you do."},{"start":53.87,"end":54.17,"text":"I know."},{"start":54.25,"end":56.05,"text":"I just, I only want one, you know."},{"start":56.45,"end":56.75,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":57.56,"end":62.12,"text":"March 6th, for example, go over and get that and bring it so that I could just start on that."},{"start":62.16,"end":69.51,"text":"And then you see, you could sort of go back and forth on a half-hour basis, see."},{"start":70.35,"end":77.26,"text":"If he tries to get them all, Steve, it's going to take—you know, I've got to finish this today, and I— Let me get him moving more in March."},{"start":77.28,"end":79.38,"text":"He might even have that by now."},{"start":80.4,"end":81.3,"text":"Would you— Yes."},{"start":81.34,"end":82.22,"text":"Can you get my phone?"},{"start":82.58,"end":85.06,"text":"Yes, I'll get someone to reach him, the other individual."},{"start":85.19,"end":85.72,"text":"We'll get him."},{"start":86.21,"end":87.63,"text":"And we'll move it out then."},{"start":87.65,"end":87.92,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":89.06,"end":93.2,"text":"And I'm going to bring the tape recorder just to your outside office so I can work from there, I guess."},{"start":93.24,"end":95.75,"text":"That's probably the best thing."},{"start":95.77,"end":96.03,"text":"Sure."},{"start":96.07,"end":96.67,"text":"That's better."},{"start":96.71,"end":99.23,"text":"Then we can, it'll save my time."},{"start":99.27,"end":99.77,"text":"That's for sure."},{"start":100.44,"end":105.9,"text":"Well, if you've got the 16th stuff, if you don't get the March stuff, just bring it over here and I'll start working on that."},{"start":106.14,"end":106.34,"text":"All right."},{"start":106.36,"end":106.77,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":106.83,"end":108.29,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and aide Stephen B. Bull coordinate the retrieval and organization of specific White House tape recordings for the President's personal review. Nixon emphasizes the urgent need for materials from March 1973, specifically the March 6th meeting, to facilitate his immediate review process. Bull outlines the logistical difficulties of gathering tapes from an off-site safe, while the two agree to move the playback equipment to an office adjacent to the President to improve efficiency.","topics":["White House tapes","Watergate","Tape review process","Executive organization","Logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:49:43.381Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-tapes","watergate","tape-review-process","executive-organization","logistics"],"audioDurationSec":114,"audioFiles":[{"file":"039-077.mp3","bytes":3665920,"durationSec":114.43,"bitrate":256298,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.071Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:42.808Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/039-077.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/039-077","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/39/conversation-039-077","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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