Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 39 › Conversation 039-109

Nixon phone call with Buzhardt on Watergate and Archibald Cox

Wednesday, June 6, 1973 · 2:35 PM–2:36 PM ET · White House Telephone · 1 min

ParticipantsWhite House operator; Nixon, Richard M. (President); Buzhardt, J. Fred, Jr.Conversation039-109 on Tape 39StartWednesday, June 6, 1973 at 2:35 PMEndWednesday, June 6, 1973 at 2:36 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 039-109 ↗

President Nixon consults with J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr. regarding his upcoming meeting with Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox to gauge the potential for a hostile confrontation. The President expresses concern that Cox might intentionally provoke a conflict to justify a resignation, prompting the two to strategize on how to manage the interaction. They conclude by scheduling a follow-up briefing to occur after the President finishes a concurrent meeting with Congressional leadership.

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Yeah.
Mr. Bazzard, sir.
Hello.
Yes, Mr. President.
You're meeting with this fellow at 3 o'clock, are you?
3.30.
3.30.
Oh, I see.
How long do you think it'll take you?
It depends on, you know, what his... What he wants to discuss.
What he wants, Mr. President.
Fine, fine.
You know, we've discussed the various things, what might be his objectives.
Right.
Okay.
If he's looking for a confrontation to give him a basis to resign, I presume it might be a fairly short meeting.
If he has other motives, as is probably the case, I think then we will discuss and talk a while, see what he wants to tell us.
So it'll be, you know, depends on the circumstances.
Okay, well then...
You might give me a call when you return.
I certainly will.
See, I have a meeting with the Congressman at 5.
You might not be back by then.
No, we might not.
That's only an hour and a half, including travel time.
I will be around.
I'll wait.
I'll call around after I get finished with the Congressman.
Thank you, sir.

On June 6, 1973, White House operator, President Richard M. Nixon, and J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr. talked on the telephone from 2:35 pm to 2:36 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 039-109 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 39-109

Date: June 6, 1973
Time: 2:35 pm - 2:36 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The White House operator talked with the President.

       Incoming telephone call

The President talked with J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr.

[See also Conversation No. 443-11]

       Watergate
             -Buzhardt’s forthcoming meeting with Archibald Cox [?]
                   -Timing
                   -Objectives
                            -Possible resignation
                   -Forthcoming conversation with President

       President’s schedule
              -Bipartisan Congressional leadership meeting
  • 039-108 2:34 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:34 pm and 2:35 pm.
  • 443-009 2:34 PM · 40 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:34 pm and 2:36 pm.
  • 443-010 2:34 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:34 pm and 2:36 pm.
  • 443-011 2:35 PM · 53 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:35 pm to 2:36 pm.
  • 039-110 2:36 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:36 pm and 3:21 pm.
  • 443-012 2:36 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:36 pm and 3:21 pm.
  • 039-111 3:21 PM · 29 sec — White House operator, President Richard M. Nixon, and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 3:21 pm to 3:22 pm.
  • 443-013 3:21 PM · 37 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:21 pm to 3:22 pm.

Conversation 039-109, June 6, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/039-109 (accessed September 28, 2026).