{"conversationCode":"039-109","tapeNumber":39,"conversationNumber":109,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-039-109","startDateTime":"1973-06-06T18:35:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-06T18:36:00.000Z","startDate":"6-Jun-1973","startTime":"2:35 PM","endDate":"6-Jun-1973","endTime":"2:36 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"White House operator; Nixon, Richard M. (President); Buzhardt, J. Fred, Jr.;","description":"On June 6, 1973, White House operator, President Richard M. Nixon, and J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr. talked on the telephone from 2:35 pm to 2:36 pm. 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Fred Buzhardt, Jr.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 443-11]\n\n       Watergate\n             -Buzhardt’s forthcoming meeting with Archibald Cox [?]\n                   -Timing\n                   -Objectives\n                            -Possible resignation\n                   -Forthcoming conversation with President\n\n       President’s schedule\n              -Bipartisan Congressional leadership meeting","filename":["039-109.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["White House operator","Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Buzhardt, J. Fred, Jr."],"prevCode":"039-108","nextCode":"039-110","transcript":[{"start":0.64,"end":1.02,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":1.14,"end":2.36,"text":"Mr. Bazzard, sir."},{"start":2.38,"end":2.8,"text":"Hello."},{"start":2.82,"end":3.52,"text":"Yes, Mr. President."},{"start":3.9,"end":5.92,"text":"You're meeting with this fellow at 3 o'clock, are you?"},{"start":5.94,"end":6.18,"text":"3.30."},{"start":6.2,"end":7.45,"text":"3.30."},{"start":8.13,"end":8.55,"text":"Oh, I see."},{"start":9.21,"end":11.71,"text":"How long do you think it'll take you?"},{"start":11.87,"end":16.32,"text":"It depends on, you know, what his... What he wants to discuss."},{"start":16.89,"end":17.48,"text":"What he wants, Mr. President."},{"start":17.5,"end":17.76,"text":"Fine, fine."},{"start":18.56,"end":24.5,"text":"You know, we've discussed the various things, what might be his objectives."},{"start":25.7,"end":25.89,"text":"Right."},{"start":25.91,"end":26,"text":"Okay."},{"start":26.24,"end":33.23,"text":"If he's looking for a confrontation to give him a basis to resign, I presume it might be a fairly short meeting."},{"start":34.97,"end":44.58,"text":"If he has other motives, as is probably the case, I think then we will discuss and talk a while, see what he wants to tell us."},{"start":44.7,"end":49.55,"text":"So it'll be, you know, depends on the circumstances."},{"start":51.51,"end":54.37,"text":"Okay, well then..."},{"start":56.17,"end":58.56,"text":"You might give me a call when you return."},{"start":58.58,"end":60.48,"text":"I certainly will."},{"start":61.96,"end":64.68,"text":"See, I have a meeting with the Congressman at 5."},{"start":64.7,"end":65.56,"text":"You might not be back by then."},{"start":65.58,"end":67.67,"text":"No, we might not."},{"start":67.69,"end":73.17,"text":"That's only an hour and a half, including travel time."},{"start":73.19,"end":74.01,"text":"I will be around."},{"start":74.31,"end":74.61,"text":"I'll wait."},{"start":74.69,"end":79.86,"text":"I'll call around after I get finished with the Congressman."},{"start":80.48,"end":82.62,"text":"Thank you, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consults with J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr. regarding his upcoming meeting with Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox to gauge the potential for a hostile confrontation. The President expresses concern that Cox might intentionally provoke a conflict to justify a resignation, prompting the two to strategize on how to manage the interaction. They conclude by scheduling a follow-up briefing to occur after the President finishes a concurrent meeting with Congressional leadership.","topics":["Watergate","Archibald Cox","Special Prosecutor","Presidential Strategy","J. 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