{"conversationCode":"039-138","tapeNumber":39,"conversationNumber":138,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-039-138","startDateTime":"1973-06-07T23:26:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-07T23:29:00.000Z","startDate":"7-Jun-1973","startTime":"7:26 PM","endDate":"7-Jun-1973","endTime":"7:29 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"White House operator; Nixon, Richard M. (President); Rebozo, Charles G. (\"Bebe\");","description":"On June 7, 1973, White House operator, President Richard M. Nixon, and Charles G. (\"Bebe\") Rebozo talked on the telephone from 7:26 pm to 7:29 pm. 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Whelan]\n      -Participants’ motives\n      -Press\n      -Popular opinion\n              -Announcements of Melvin R. Laird and Alexander M. Haig, Jr.\n              -Clarence M. Kelly’s appointments to Federal Bureau of Investigation\n               [FBI]\n                     -Background\n                     -Accomplishments\n                             -Kansas City crime rate\n\nMessage to Rebozo’s mother\n\nPresident’s schedule\n       -Visit to Key Biscayne\n               -Church\n               -Accident at Walker’s Cay\n               -Key Largo\n                      -Lunch\n\f                                             -113-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                             Conversation No. 39-139 (cont’d)","filename":["039-138.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["White House operator","Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Rebozo, Charles G. (\"Bebe\")"],"prevCode":"039-137","nextCode":"039-139","transcript":[{"start":0.42,"end":0.8,"text":"Hello."},{"start":1.08,"end":2.12,"text":"Mr. Rebosa, sir."},{"start":2.44,"end":4.33,"text":"Hello."},{"start":4.53,"end":4.81,"text":"Hello."},{"start":5.05,"end":5.93,"text":"Mr. President, how are you?"},{"start":6.33,"end":6.85,"text":"Good, where are you?"},{"start":7.09,"end":7.81,"text":"I'm at my brother's house."},{"start":8.32,"end":8.5,"text":"Good."},{"start":8.6,"end":9.68,"text":"How are you doing?"},{"start":9.7,"end":14.13,"text":"I thought you'd be glad that we're going to be down about noon tomorrow."},{"start":14.33,"end":15.07,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":15.09,"end":15.41,"text":"Great."},{"start":15.55,"end":16.57,"text":"So we'll see you then."},{"start":16.69,"end":17.21,"text":"That's great."},{"start":17.29,"end":18.6,"text":"A little dew right now."},{"start":19.13,"end":19.85,"text":"Good moisture."},{"start":19.87,"end":20.8,"text":"We hope it clears up."},{"start":21,"end":22.02,"text":"Oh, I'm not worried about that."},{"start":22.2,"end":23.86,"text":"We can only be there over the weekend."},{"start":23.88,"end":24.76,"text":"Are you feeling all right?"},{"start":24.9,"end":25.76,"text":"Great, thank you."},{"start":25.78,"end":26.5,"text":"Everything going well?"},{"start":26.58,"end":27.64,"text":"How's your mother?"},{"start":28.01,"end":29.21,"text":"Oh, she's fine, thank you."},{"start":29.23,"end":29.35,"text":"Fine."},{"start":29.75,"end":30.65,"text":"How are you doing, all right?"},{"start":30.79,"end":31.53,"text":"Fine, fine."},{"start":31.87,"end":32.13,"text":"Good."},{"start":32.21,"end":35.04,"text":"People not talking quite as much about Watergate these days, right?"},{"start":35.1,"end":36.18,"text":"What do you find?"},{"start":36.92,"end":38.1,"text":"Oh, it's just better all the time."},{"start":38.62,"end":39.02,"text":"Really?"},{"start":39.04,"end":40.8,"text":"Better all the time."},{"start":41.12,"end":43.83,"text":"I had a funny thing today."},{"start":43.98,"end":44.15,"text":"Uh-huh."},{"start":44.79,"end":51.59,"text":"My God, I got a letter from Leavenworth Prison, the former mayor of Jersey City who got 15 years."},{"start":51.99,"end":52.4,"text":"Oh, boy."},{"start":53.82,"end":54.78,"text":"Sympathizing with you."},{"start":54.82,"end":56.18,"text":"I'll be darned."},{"start":56.3,"end":59.78,"text":"And gave the media the very devil, you know."},{"start":60.42,"end":60.66,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":60.68,"end":61.05,"text":"The guy."},{"start":61.06,"end":62.85,"text":"I feel so sorry for him."},{"start":62.87,"end":66.47,"text":"Well, you know, I think of all of our good people that are"},{"start":66.96,"end":93.69,"text":"being involved in a way that you know they're all doing what they thought was right sure it's just terrible that's right it's the media that's doing it well i think it's picking up though what do you think oh no question laird and laird and haig's announcement was good that was excellent the new fbi director is good excellent excellent you think so uh excellent i was afraid you you know i wanted to get somebody with that had been with the fbi well this guy's a police chief he's a tough"},{"start":93.67,"end":96.96,"text":"progressive cop and a former FBI man and a lawyer."},{"start":97.04,"end":99.32,"text":"So he's just a combination of everything."},{"start":99.34,"end":102.11,"text":"He reduced Kansas City crime by about fifty percent."},{"start":103.15,"end":104.71,"text":"That's wonderful."},{"start":105.11,"end":110.08,"text":"Well, give your mother my best and we'll see you tomorrow."},{"start":110.1,"end":117.55,"text":"Incidentally, I thought that what we would do, so we don't avoid the church thing, we might go down to your place at"},{"start":117.97,"end":121.82,"text":"I don't want to go to Walker's right now so soon after that accident."},{"start":122.02,"end":126.43,"text":"We ought to go down maybe to your place at Key Largo, huh?"},{"start":126.91,"end":128.05,"text":"How's that sound to you?"},{"start":128.07,"end":128.59,"text":"That's great."},{"start":128.61,"end":129.03,"text":"We'll do that."},{"start":129.05,"end":129.85,"text":"Go down there for lunch."},{"start":130.06,"end":130.36,"text":"Sure."},{"start":130.68,"end":131.22,"text":"All right, boy."},{"start":131.54,"end":133.26,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his close associate Bebe Rebozo discussed logistics for the President’s upcoming weekend trip to Key Biscayne and exchanged personal well-wishes regarding their families' health. 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