{"conversationCode":"040-038","tapeNumber":40,"conversationNumber":38,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-040-038","startDateTime":"1973-06-12T21:30:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-13T00:19:00.000Z","startDate":"12-Jun-1973","startTime":"5:30 PM","endDate":"12-Jun-1973","endTime":"8:19 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On June 12, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:30 pm and 8:19 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 040-038 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 40-38\n\nDate: June 12, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 5:30 pm and 8:19 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 444-23]\n\n     Request for telephone call\n          -Julie Nixon Eisenhower","filename":["040-038.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"040-037","nextCode":"040-039","transcript":[{"start":2,"end":2.89,"text":"Please."},{"start":2.91,"end":3.91,"text":"Just try Julie, please."},{"start":3.97,"end":4.88,"text":"If she's out."},{"start":5.12,"end":5.46,"text":"Yes."},{"start":6.1,"end":7.39,"text":"Don't get her there."},{"start":7.41,"end":7.73,"text":"Okay."},{"start":7.81,"end":8.63,"text":"At home, okay."},{"start":8.79,"end":9.54,"text":"Fine, thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon instructed the White House operator to place a personal telephone call to his daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower. He specified that the operator should attempt to reach her only at her home. This brief exchange served solely to facilitate a private family communication.","topics":["Julie Nixon Eisenhower","Personal communications","White House operations","Richard Nixon"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T05:59:35.506Z"},"topicSlugs":["julie-nixon-eisenhower","personal-communications","white-house-operations","richard-nixon"],"audioDurationSec":16,"audioFiles":[{"file":"040-038.mp3","bytes":524288,"durationSec":16.25,"bitrate":258058,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.407Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/040-038.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/040-038","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/40/conversation-040-038","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}