{"conversationCode":"040-060","tapeNumber":40,"conversationNumber":60,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-040-060","startDateTime":"1973-06-13T04:09:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-13T04:12:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Jun-1973","startTime":"12:09 AM","endDate":"13-Jun-1973","endTime":"12:12 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary;","description":"On June 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods talked on the telephone from 12:09 am to 12:12 am. 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(“Bill”) Gulley’s guest list\n                       -Number of invitees\n                       -President’s instructions","filename":["040-060.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Woods, Rose Mary"],"prevCode":"040-059","nextCode":"040-061","transcript":[{"start":2.09,"end":2.85,"text":"Hello, Rose."},{"start":3.09,"end":3.59,"text":"Hello."},{"start":3.61,"end":13.37,"text":"Sorry to bother you, but on the after-dinner guest, if you would check to see who else has been to Russia and invite them for that."},{"start":13.95,"end":14.41,"text":"Okay."},{"start":14.43,"end":18.53,"text":"You know, like I know the head of the environment thing has been there."},{"start":19.19,"end":19.64,"text":"All right."},{"start":19.66,"end":23.44,"text":"And he should be, you know, trained and others."},{"start":23.9,"end":31.15,"text":"We're going to put some of those on the after-dinner, and the Russians want some names, so I thought maybe we'd give some of those names to the Russians, too."},{"start":31.17,"end":32.01,"text":"All right."},{"start":32.31,"end":36.1,"text":"But for the after dinner, have those people there, you see."},{"start":36.12,"end":36.68,"text":"All right."},{"start":36.7,"end":36.88,"text":"Fine."},{"start":36.9,"end":37.64,"text":"Okay."},{"start":37.66,"end":38.04,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":38.06,"end":38.16,"text":"Okay."},{"start":38.18,"end":38.58,"text":"Fine."},{"start":38.6,"end":43.09,"text":"And incidentally, on that one, don't invite administrative assistants and all that crap, you know?"},{"start":43.11,"end":49.46,"text":"Well, unfortunately, they've already invited a few, although I must say Bill gave me 41 names and I think I invited eight."},{"start":49.48,"end":50.3,"text":"That's all."},{"start":50.32,"end":50.5,"text":"Oh, no."},{"start":50.82,"end":52.32,"text":"You see, this is a different kind of dinner."},{"start":52.6,"end":53.22,"text":"He doesn't understand."},{"start":53.52,"end":54.83,"text":"I know, I know."},{"start":54.85,"end":56.27,"text":"That's his job, though."},{"start":56.29,"end":59.15,"text":"Well, the same ones have been here two or three times this year."},{"start":59.31,"end":59.85,"text":"No more."},{"start":59.87,"end":61.24,"text":"We've got to talk to him about that."},{"start":61.42,"end":62.86,"text":"No, no more, no more."},{"start":62.94,"end":69.29,"text":"We're not going to have people the second time they come hear the music and leave and dance, and that's not going to happen anymore."},{"start":69.33,"end":74,"text":"You've got to tell Bill they're there to have different people each time or else."},{"start":74.32,"end":74.54,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":74.6,"end":76.5,"text":"At least to mark on it if they've been here before."},{"start":77.1,"end":78,"text":"Fair enough?"},{"start":78.02,"end":78.4,"text":"Yep."},{"start":78.77,"end":79.39,"text":"Alright."},{"start":79.41,"end":79.73,"text":"Okay."},{"start":79.75,"end":83.75,"text":"But I want everybody in the administration that's been to Russia to be there."},{"start":84.59,"end":85.11,"text":"Alright."},{"start":85.13,"end":85.8,"text":"Okay."},{"start":85.82,"end":85.98,"text":"Fine."},{"start":86.22,"end":86.62,"text":"Thanks."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directed his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, to finalize the guest list for an upcoming after-dinner event honoring Soviet General Secretary Leonid Brezhnev. The President requested that all administration officials with experience traveling to the USSR be included and specifically instructed that individuals who had already attended multiple White House events be excluded. Furthermore, Nixon expressed frustration with the current vetting process, ordering that future guest lists provided by Warren L. “Bill” Gulley be strictly managed to ensure a fresh rotation of attendees.","topics":["Leonid Brezhnev","White House Guest Lists","US-Soviet Relations","Rose Mary Woods","Presidential Scheduling","Warren L. 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