{"conversationCode":"040-073","tapeNumber":40,"conversationNumber":73,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-040-073","startDateTime":"1973-06-13T17:48:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-13T17:50:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Jun-1973","startTime":"1:48 PM","endDate":"13-Jun-1973","endTime":"1:50 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On June 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 1:48 pm to 1:50 pm. 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Kissinger’s briefing in Paris\n          -Press coverage\n                -Wire services\n                -Transcript\n\n     President’s schedule\n           -Forthcoming speech on economy\n                 -Time\n           -Cabinet meeting\n                 -Picture\n           -Congressmen meeting\n                 -Picture\n\n     President’s forthcoming speech on economy\n           -President’s conversation with Raymond K. Price, Jr.\n           -Distribution of text\n                 -Cabinet, Congressional leaders\n                       -Leaks\n                 -Time\n                 -Ziegler’s conversations with Price, George P. Shultz and William E. Timmons\n                 -Reasons","filename":["040-073.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"040-072","nextCode":"040-074","transcript":[{"start":0.69,"end":1.47,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":1.49,"end":2.27,"text":"Yes, Mr. Roosevelt."},{"start":2.29,"end":5.59,"text":"How are you doing in getting out Henry's story, or is that falling on its face?"},{"start":5.66,"end":6.3,"text":"No, it's not."},{"start":6.34,"end":7,"text":"It's playing very well."},{"start":7.56,"end":7.98,"text":"You sure?"},{"start":8.14,"end":8.34,"text":"Yes."},{"start":8.74,"end":14.13,"text":"He had a good briefing over in Paris, and we have that transcript coming in."},{"start":14.23,"end":17.23,"text":"It's moving well on the wires and very positively."},{"start":19.33,"end":22.42,"text":"It's very important, Ron, to see that that is played extremely well."},{"start":22.48,"end":23,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":23.02,"end":25.18,"text":"You probably can't do anything about it, but do your best."},{"start":25.3,"end":26.78,"text":"Well, we don't have to do anything about it."},{"start":26.84,"end":27.74,"text":"It is moving well."},{"start":28.46,"end":31.45,"text":"and we're underpinning it, as I talked to you about this morning."},{"start":31.65,"end":32.19,"text":"Right."},{"start":32.21,"end":35.31,"text":"You know, with your backgrounders and all that kind of thing."},{"start":35.52,"end":37.12,"text":"Right, right, right."},{"start":37.14,"end":41.51,"text":"And the announcement about tonight is moving well, too."},{"start":42.37,"end":43.05,"text":"I would think it would."},{"start":43.45,"end":45.01,"text":"8.30 tonight, you've announced that now."},{"start":45.03,"end":45.57,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":45.59,"end":47.01,"text":"The meeting with the leaders you've announced."},{"start":47.03,"end":48.26,"text":"Yes, the cabinet."},{"start":48.27,"end":48.52,"text":"Right."},{"start":48.84,"end":53.16,"text":"I think we should do a quick press picture with the cabinet and with the leadership."},{"start":53.18,"end":53.52,"text":"Fine."},{"start":54.2,"end":54.3,"text":"Okay."},{"start":56.46,"end":67.04,"text":"so that they have that to use tomorrow and the 4.30 thing they could have even for tonight."},{"start":67.52,"end":81.86,"text":"Now, I talked to Ray Price and also talked later on this subject, and I think it's very important that we not give the text out to the Cabinet"},{"start":82.28,"end":83.42,"text":"Or to the leaders."},{"start":83.64,"end":83.82,"text":"Right."},{"start":83.84,"end":84.5,"text":"Because it'll leak."},{"start":85.17,"end":91.42,"text":"But say that the text will be available at 7 o'clock so that it doesn't break the news shows, which it must not."},{"start":91.44,"end":91.58,"text":"Right."},{"start":91.62,"end":95.89,"text":"I've talked to Ray about that and to Schultz about it, and Timmons understands that, too."},{"start":95.91,"end":96.03,"text":"Right."},{"start":96.41,"end":100.43,"text":"And so they must all understand that, that they will be delivered to them at 7 o'clock."},{"start":100.45,"end":101.36,"text":"7 o'clock."},{"start":101.44,"end":101.61,"text":"Right."},{"start":101.96,"end":102.24,"text":"Fine."},{"start":102.56,"end":102.9,"text":"Okay, sir."},{"start":103.14,"end":103.26,"text":"Right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler discussed the positive media reception of Henry Kissinger’s recent Paris briefing and logistics regarding the President’s upcoming economic address. Nixon emphasized the importance of securing favorable press coverage and instructed Ziegler to coordinate photo opportunities with the Cabinet and Congressional leaders. To prevent premature media leaks, Nixon strictly ordered that the text of his economic speech be withheld from Cabinet members and legislators until 7:00 p.m., shortly before the address.","topics":["Henry Kissinger","Press relations","Economic policy","Media leaks","Presidential schedule"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T06:02:55.190Z"},"topicSlugs":["henry-kissinger","press-relations","economic-policy","media-leaks","presidential-schedule"],"audioDurationSec":111,"audioFiles":[{"file":"040-073.mp3","bytes":3540992,"durationSec":110.57,"bitrate":256191,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.713Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/040-073.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/040-073","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/40/conversation-040-073","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}