{"conversationCode":"040-075","tapeNumber":40,"conversationNumber":75,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-040-075","startDateTime":"1973-06-13T17:59:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-13T18:00:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Jun-1973","startTime":"1:59 PM","endDate":"13-Jun-1973","endTime":"2:00 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Haig, Alexander M., Jr.; Nixon, Richard M. (President);","description":"On June 13, 1973, Alexander M. Haig, Jr. and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone from 1:59 pm to 2:00 pm. 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Scranton\n                -Acceptance\n\f                                                -64-\n\n                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                          -Conversation with Haig\n                                -Litigation in Pennsylvania\n                                -Integrity\n                    -President’s schedule\n                          -Florida\n                    -Timing of announcement\n                    -Meeting with President","filename":["040-075.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Haig, Alexander M., Jr.","Nixon, Richard M. (President)"],"prevCode":"040-074","nextCode":"040-076","transcript":[{"start":0.91,"end":1.63,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":1.65,"end":3.19,"text":"Mr. President, General Haig calling."},{"start":3.65,"end":9.74,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":9.76,"end":19.25,"text":"Okay."},{"start":19.27,"end":20.21,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":20.23,"end":21.07,"text":"He hung up, sir."},{"start":21.23,"end":23.03,"text":"He's coming to the phone."},{"start":25.3,"end":25.64,"text":"All right."},{"start":25.66,"end":25.78,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":25.8,"end":26.04,"text":"Hello, Al."},{"start":26.18,"end":26.7,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":26.82,"end":28.62,"text":"I just talked to Scranton."},{"start":29.06,"end":30.7,"text":"And he's going to do this."},{"start":30.72,"end":35.19,"text":"He's got a couple of minor legal problems, which I think are minutia."},{"start":36.95,"end":41.04,"text":"He's part of a corporation that's being sued, a small Pennsylvania outlaw."},{"start":41.06,"end":42.12,"text":"Oh, good God, that's nothing."},{"start":42.22,"end":43.92,"text":"Nobody's got to question his integrity."},{"start":44.06,"end":44.24,"text":"No."},{"start":44.78,"end":48.13,"text":"So he wants to come down and talk to me tomorrow at 11."},{"start":48.6,"end":51.08,"text":"And maybe we could... All right, I'll talk to him there, then."},{"start":51.1,"end":52.36,"text":"I won't have to have him in Florida."},{"start":52.82,"end":53.7,"text":"That's right."},{"start":54.36,"end":55.83,"text":"Maybe we can do it just that way."},{"start":56.02,"end":57.53,"text":"And have the announcement Saturday, though?"},{"start":57.77,"end":59.47,"text":"Yes, we can do it Saturday."},{"start":59.65,"end":61.43,"text":"Or do you want it tomorrow?"},{"start":62.41,"end":63.91,"text":"No, I think it would be better to wait."},{"start":63.93,"end":64.11,"text":"Saturday."},{"start":64.37,"end":65.9,"text":"Let's let this other story ride out."},{"start":65.96,"end":67.94,"text":"Yeah, I think it's much better to let it out."},{"start":67.96,"end":68.32,"text":"Fine."},{"start":68.34,"end":70.16,"text":"I'll be available tomorrow, anytime you say."},{"start":70.44,"end":71.58,"text":"Okay, sir."},{"start":71.6,"end":71.7,"text":"Fine."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Alexander Haig discuss the recruitment of William W. Scranton for an energy-related appointment, noting that minor legal issues regarding Scranton's corporate involvement should not impact his candidacy. Nixon decides to meet with Scranton the following day at the White House rather than in Florida to finalize the plans. They agree to delay the public announcement until Saturday to avoid competing with other ongoing news stories.","topics":["William W. Scranton","Energy policy","Presidential appointments","Public relations","Personnel management"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T06:03:06.718Z"},"topicSlugs":["william-w-scranton","energy-policy","presidential-appointments","public-relations","personnel-management"],"audioDurationSec":79,"audioFiles":[{"file":"040-075.mp3","bytes":2529280,"durationSec":78.89,"bitrate":256475,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.712Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:43.132Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/040-075.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/040-075","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/40/conversation-040-075","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}