{"conversationCode":"040-081","tapeNumber":40,"conversationNumber":81,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-040-081","startDateTime":"1973-06-13T21:39:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-13T21:40:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Jun-1973","startTime":"5:39 PM","endDate":"13-Jun-1973","endTime":"5:40 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Bull, Stephen B.; Nixon, Richard M. (President);","description":"On June 13, 1973, Stephen B. Bull and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone from 5:39 pm to 5:40 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 040-081 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 40-81\n\nDate: June 13, 1973\nTime: 5:39 pm - 5:40 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nStephen B. Bull talked with the President.\n\n[See also Conversation 445-28]\n\n      President’s schedule\n            -Bipartisan Congressional leaders\n                  -Carl B. Albert\n                  -Message for William E. Timmons\n                        -Statement by President\n                        -George P. Shultz\n                              -Questions\n\f                                             -67-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM","filename":["040-081.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Bull, Stephen B.","Nixon, Richard M. (President)"],"prevCode":"040-080","nextCode":"040-082","transcript":[{"start":0.64,"end":1.56,"text":"Mr. Bull."},{"start":2.56,"end":3.38,"text":"Yes, Mr. President."},{"start":3.96,"end":6.53,"text":"Speaker Albert is just arriving now."},{"start":6.89,"end":9.63,"text":"Now would be an appropriate time to come over."},{"start":9.65,"end":15.76,"text":"Tell Timmons that I've decided I'll just make a statement and leave because it's so late."},{"start":15.78,"end":18.54,"text":"I'm not going to stay through the meeting until he can answer the questions."},{"start":18.68,"end":19.16,"text":"Very good, sir."},{"start":19.18,"end":20.07,"text":"I'll tell him right now."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with his aide Stephen B. Bull regarding an upcoming meeting with bipartisan congressional leaders, including Speaker Carl Albert. Due to scheduling delays, Nixon instructed Bull to inform William E. Timmons that the President would deliver a brief statement and depart early rather than remaining for a lengthy Q&A session involving George P. Shultz. This decision effectively curtailed the President's planned engagement with the congressional leadership.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Carl Albert","William Timmons","Congressional relations","George Shultz"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T06:03:41.083Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","carl-albert","william-timmons","congressional-relations","george-shultz"],"audioDurationSec":26,"audioFiles":[{"file":"040-081.mp3","bytes":829440,"durationSec":25.81,"bitrate":257057,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.713Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:43.132Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/040-081.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/040-081","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/40/conversation-040-081","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}