Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 40 › Conversation 040-108

Nixon, Haig & Lewis on Leonid Brezhnev and Presidential travel

Thursday, June 14, 1973 · 2:55 PM–2:58 PM ET · White House Telephone · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Haig, Alexander M., Jr.; Lewis, Hobart D.Conversation040-108 on Tape 40StartThursday, June 14, 1973 at 2:55 PMEndThursday, June 14, 1973 at 2:58 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 040-108 ↗

President Nixon consulted with Alexander M. Haig, Jr. regarding schedules before speaking with Reader’s Digest editor Hobart D. Lewis. Lewis requested a private meeting with the President to discuss an undisclosed matter of concern that he had previously touched upon with H. R. Haldeman. Due to the President’s travel schedule to Illinois and Florida, coupled with the upcoming summit with Leonid Brezhnev, the parties agreed to defer the meeting until after the conclusion of the Brezhnev visit.

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On June 14, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., and Hobart D. Lewis talked on the telephone from 2:55 pm to 2:58 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 040-108 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 40-108

Date: June 14, 1973
Time: 2:55 pm - 2:58 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President conferred with Alexander M. Haig, Jr.

[Begin conferral]

     Unknown person’s schedule

[End conferral]

The President talked with Hobart D. (“Hobe”) Lewis.

[See also Conversation No. 941-6A]

     Lewis
          -Schedule
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

           -Conversation with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman, June 14
                 -Lewis’ response
           -President’ schedule
                 -Meeting with Lewis
                        -Concerns
                        -Discussion with Haldeman
                 -Illinois
                 -Florida
                 -Leonid I. Brezhnev
                 -California
                 -Meeting with Lewis
                        -Time

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You free now?
Are you going to a meeting?
Mr. President, Mr. Hope R. Lewis.
Yeah.
There you are.
Hello.
Hey, Mr. President.
Hi, Hope.
You're back from Europe.
Oh, yes.
I just got back, Mr. President, and I don't want to interrupt your busy day.
Not at all.
Not at all.
But I did talk to Bob this morning.
Oh, yes.
I asked him to call you.
I got something.
i don't know whether could you if i could you sometimes see me for 15 minutes sure sure i think it's something we might have to talk out a little bit right i'm concerned about it and as i told bob but i'd rather talk to you about it right i know you've got a heavy schedule well the difficulty is that i'm um
I'm pretty much shot for this week.
That's right.
Since I will be going to Florida tomorrow, I mean to Illinois tomorrow, and then Florida.
And then you've got Brezhnev.
And then I've got Brezhnev for a week.
Yeah, for a week, is it?
Yeah.
Oh, God, yes.
And then I'm in California.
Well, you know, obviously, at your convenience, but I think we ought to talk about it.
I guess, is there any greater urgency about it?
I don't think so, no.
Until after the Brezhnev visit?
No, if after the Brezhnev visit, maybe you could do it.
Have a little time.
Right, right.
We'll do it.
All right, we'll do that.
All right, let's do it.
That'll be fine.
I count on that very much.
All right, and I appreciate your considering it.
Fine.
All right, fine.
  • 040-107 2:06 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:06 pm and 2:55 pm.
  • 941-001 2:06 PM · 19 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:06 pm and 2:55 pm.
  • 941-002 2:06 PM · 44 min — President Richard M. Nixon, George P. Shultz, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:06 pm to 2:55 pm.
  • 941-003 2:06 PM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:06 pm and 2:55 pm.
  • 941-004 2:06 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:06 pm and 2:55 pm.
  • 040-109 3:33 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:33 pm and 3:46 pm.
  • 446-001 3:33 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:33 pm and 3:46 pm.
  • 941-008 3:33 PM · 1 min — United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:33 pm and 6:14 pm.

Conversation 040-108, June 14, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/040-108 (accessed October 31, 2026).