{"conversationCode":"041-001","tapeNumber":41,"conversationNumber":1,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-041-001","startDateTime":"1973-06-18T20:20:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-18T20:22:00.000Z","startDate":"18-Jun-1973","startTime":"4:20 PM","endDate":"18-Jun-1973","endTime":"4:22 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Haig, Alexander M., Jr.; Nixon, Richard M. (President);","description":"On June 18, 1973, Alexander M. Haig, Jr. and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone from 4:20 pm to 4:22 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 041-001 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":"Abuse of Governmental Power Release","aogpSegment":"Segment 1; Segment 2","lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 41-1\n\nDate: June 18, 1973\nTime: 4:20 pm - 4:22 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nAlexander M. Haig, Jr. talked with the President.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 447-4A]\n\n     Watergate\n          -Ervin Committee hearings\n                -Schedule\n                     -Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield, Hugh Scott\n\n     John A. Love\n          -Review of materials\n          -Conversation with Haig\n          -President’s schedule\n                -Rose Mary Woods\n                -Composition of toast for State dinner with Leonid I. Brezhnev\n                -Meeting time\n\n     Watergate\n          -Ervin Committee hearings\n                -Schedule\n                      -William E. Timmons, J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr.\n                      -Scott\n          -Howard H. Baker, Jr.’s statement\n                -President’s schedule\n\f                                             -2-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM","filename":["041-001.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Haig, Alexander M., Jr.","Nixon, Richard M. (President)"],"prevCode":"040-123","nextCode":"041-002","transcript":[{"start":5.35,"end":9.15,"text":"Mr. President, I have General Haig calling you, sir."},{"start":11.21,"end":12.84,"text":"Hello, Mr. President."},{"start":13.64,"end":14.4,"text":"Two things, sir."},{"start":14.86,"end":22.2,"text":"I just got the call that the committee has postponed the hearings for the rest of the week."},{"start":22.23,"end":24.53,"text":"Apparently at the behest of Mike Mansfield."},{"start":27.77,"end":33.52,"text":"I guess Hugh Scott had some involvement, but it was primarily... Too bad we couldn't keep him out of it."},{"start":34.1,"end":35.22,"text":"Yeah, exactly."},{"start":36.55,"end":42.42,"text":"And I have Governor Love here, and I've gone over this thing with him."},{"start":42.48,"end":47.66,"text":"I wondered if you would want to see him sometime today, briefly."},{"start":49.79,"end":53.37,"text":"Well, I'll tell you, Al, I'm working on this goddamn toast right at the present time."},{"start":54.07,"end":56.18,"text":"Rose is over here, so I just can't do it right now."},{"start":57.24,"end":57.62,"text":"All right."},{"start":57.64,"end":60.58,"text":"But if he has to see me, I suppose I could see him."},{"start":66.96,"end":67.82,"text":"When?"},{"start":67.84,"end":70.98,"text":"5.30 or I don't know."},{"start":71,"end":74.65,"text":"You could do it then, and I think this will be all that's necessary."},{"start":74.67,"end":75.87,"text":"All right, fine."},{"start":75.91,"end":77.33,"text":"I'll try them at 5.30."},{"start":77.35,"end":79.06,"text":"5.30, it's 4.15 now, fine."},{"start":80.2,"end":83.38,"text":"Can't we get these hearings put on again, or what is the score?"},{"start":83.44,"end":84.55,"text":"What happened here?"},{"start":84.75,"end":86.95,"text":"Well, I just got this call from Timmons."},{"start":87.59,"end":89.65,"text":"Timmons, yeah, but what about Bazaar?"},{"start":89.67,"end":90.66,"text":"Why don't you check with him?"},{"start":90.8,"end":93.18,"text":"I'm going to do that right now."},{"start":93.2,"end":93.64,"text":"Yeah, and..."},{"start":95.17,"end":99.03,"text":"the darn thing off to a big play next week."},{"start":99.06,"end":101.9,"text":"Yeah, but that's not too bad either."},{"start":101.98,"end":105.44,"text":"We've got some very big momentum to work from."},{"start":105.46,"end":106.4,"text":"Yeah, I suppose."},{"start":107.58,"end":114.19,"text":"They were under some pressure, but it does show how stupid Scott and that poor darned fellow from Tennessee, Baker, is."},{"start":114.25,"end":115.51,"text":"Yeah, well, you know."},{"start":115.77,"end":123.34,"text":"Of course, Baker's comment was inexcusable when he said, I made the point not to be with the president when I was on the plane."},{"start":123.36,"end":123.9,"text":"The guy was..."},{"start":124.2,"end":128.27,"text":"On my back, every minute, taking pictures, you know, he had a camera."},{"start":128.33,"end":131.09,"text":"He was unbelievable, unbelievable for him to say that."},{"start":131.33,"end":132.46,"text":"Boy, that fixed me with him."},{"start":134.24,"end":135.96,"text":"Okay, fine."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Alexander Haig briefed President Nixon on the postponement of the Ervin Committee hearings, attributing the delay to Senator Mike Mansfield and criticizing Senators Hugh Scott and Howard Baker for their political maneuvering. Additionally, Haig requested a meeting for Governor John A. Love, which the President tentatively scheduled for 5:30 p.m. to accommodate his ongoing work on a toast for Leonid Brezhnev. The President expressed significant frustration over Senator Baker’s recent public comments regarding their personal relationship.","topics":["Watergate","Ervin Committee","Alexander Haig","John A. 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