{"conversationCode":"041-025","tapeNumber":41,"conversationNumber":25,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-041-025","startDateTime":"1973-06-21T20:08:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-21T20:10:00.000Z","startDate":"21-Jun-1973","startTime":"4:08 PM","endDate":"21-Jun-1973","endTime":"4:10 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On June 21, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:08 pm and 4:10 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 041-025 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 41-25\n\nDate: June 21, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 4:08 pm and 4:10 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 447-41]\n\n     Request for telephone call\n          -Julie Nixon Eisenhower","filename":["041-025.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"041-024","nextCode":"041-026","transcript":[{"start":2.48,"end":3.53,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":3.55,"end":4.79,"text":"Could you ring Julie, please?"},{"start":5.11,"end":5.32,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon contacts the White House operator to facilitate a personal phone call to his daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower. The brief interaction serves solely as a logistical request for the operator to place the outgoing connection. No substantive policy matters or political topics were discussed during this brief exchange.","topics":["Julie Nixon Eisenhower","White House operations","Personal communication"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T06:09:57.819Z"},"topicSlugs":["julie-nixon-eisenhower","white-house-operations","personal-communication"],"audioDurationSec":12,"audioFiles":[{"file":"041-025.mp3","bytes":403456,"durationSec":12.48,"bitrate":258625,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.407Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/041-025.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/041-025","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/41/conversation-041-025","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}