{"conversationCode":"041-027","tapeNumber":41,"conversationNumber":27,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-041-027","startDateTime":"1973-06-21T20:12:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-21T21:18:00.000Z","startDate":"21-Jun-1973","startTime":"4:12 PM","endDate":"21-Jun-1973","endTime":"5:18 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On June 21, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:12 pm and 5:18 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 041-027 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 41-27\n\nDate: June 21, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 4:12 pm and 5:18 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\f                                               -16-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                            Conversation No. 40-27 (cont’d)\n\n[See also Conversation No. 447-35]\n\n     Request for telephone call\n          -Ronald L. Ziegler","filename":["041-027.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"041-026","nextCode":"041-028","transcript":[{"start":4.22,"end":4.86,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon speaks with a White House operator to facilitate an outgoing call. The primary purpose of the conversation is to request a connection to Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler. No other substantive policy matters or decisions are discussed during this brief administrative exchange.","topics":["Ronald L. Ziegler","White House operations","Presidential communication","administrative request"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T06:10:08.475Z"},"topicSlugs":["ronald-l-ziegler","white-house-operations","presidential-communication","administrative-request"],"audioDurationSec":12,"audioFiles":[{"file":"041-027.mp3","bytes":395264,"durationSec":12.25,"bitrate":258061,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.712Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:43.365Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/041-027.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/041-027","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/41/conversation-041-027","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}