{"conversationCode":"041-064","tapeNumber":41,"conversationNumber":64,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-041-064","startDateTime":"1973-07-12T23:07:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-07-12T23:50:00.000Z","startDate":"12-Jul-1973","startTime":"7:07 PM","endDate":"12-Jul-1973","endTime":"7:50 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"White House operator; Eisenhower, Julie Nixon; Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan);","description":"On July 12, 1973, White House operator, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, and Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 7:07 pm and 7:50 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 041-064 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 41-64\n\nDate: July 12, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 7:07 pm and 7:50 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe White House operator talked with Julie Nixon Eisenhower. Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon can be\nheard in the background.\n\n       Tricia Nixon Cox’s schedule\n             -Bowl game\n\n       United States Secret Service [USSS] agent","filename":["041-064.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["White House operator","Eisenhower, Julie Nixon","Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan)"],"prevCode":"041-063","nextCode":"041-065","transcript":[{"start":2.44,"end":4.23,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":5.77,"end":9.54,"text":"Patricia is attending a ball game, expected in about 10 o'clock."},{"start":9.97,"end":11.23,"text":"Shall I leave words?"},{"start":12.41,"end":15.26,"text":"I think that I should speak to her agent."},{"start":15.72,"end":16.69,"text":"All right, just a moment."},{"start":16.85,"end":17.35,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Julie Nixon Eisenhower contacted the White House operator to coordinate communication with her sister, Tricia Nixon Cox, who was attending a ball game. The participants discussed Tricia's expected return time of 10:00 p.m. and determined that the most efficient way to relay a message was to speak directly with her United States Secret Service agent.","topics":["Tricia Nixon Cox","White House logistics","United States Secret Service","scheduling","family communication"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T06:13:30.714Z"},"topicSlugs":["tricia-nixon-cox","white-house-logistics","united-states-secret-service","scheduling","family-communication"],"audioDurationSec":28,"audioFiles":[{"file":"041-064.mp3","bytes":909312,"durationSec":28.27,"bitrate":257352,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.712Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/041-064.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/041-064","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/41/conversation-041-064","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}