{"conversationCode":"042-002","tapeNumber":42,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-042-002","startDateTime":"1971-04-06T13:54:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-04-07T01:58:00.000Z","startDate":"6-Apr-1971","startTime":"8:54 AM","endDate":"6-Apr-1971","endTime":"8:58 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Eisenhower, Julie Nixon;","description":"On April 6, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked on the telephone from 8:54 am to 8:58 pm. 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Valenti’s view\n          -President’s opinion on film industry\n\n     Beach story\n          -6 miles of beach returned to people\n\n     Vietnam\n          -Critics fear of success\n\n     President's instructions for Dwight L. Chapin\n\n     Julie Nixon Eisenhower’s schedule\n\n     David Eisenhower’s schedule\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n[Personal Returnable]\n[042-002-w002]\n[Duration: 1m 11s]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n\n*****************************************************************","filename":["042-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:00:58","tapeEnd":"00:05:42","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Eisenhower, Julie Nixon"],"prevCode":"042-001","nextCode":"042-003","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, discussed recent media coverage and public relations efforts. They touched upon the television reach of the President's income tax proposal, the humorous press reception of his meeting with film industry leaders, and the positive public reaction to returning beach land. Nixon also reassured Julie about criticism regarding the Vietnam War, framing it as fear of the administration's success, and instructed Dwight Chapin to arrange media appearances for her.","topics":["President's income tax proposal","Television coverage","Film industry meeting","Charlton Heston","Jack Valenti","Beach access","Vietnam War criticism","Dwight Chapin"],"generatedAt":"2026-10-27T14:56:13.796Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidents-income-tax-proposal","television-coverage","film-industry-meeting","charlton-heston","jack-valenti","beach-access","vietnam-war-criticism","dwight-chapin"],"audioDurationSec":289,"audioFiles":[{"file":"042-002.mp3","bytes":2736128,"durationSec":289.25,"bitrate":75676,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:30.085Z","transcript":[{"start":103,"end":104,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"Did the tax speech get on television?"},{"start":104,"end":106,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Oh, yes, I'm sure it did. Why?"},{"start":106,"end":110,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"Well, because out in California they didn't know anything about it. I was just wondering if it was televised."},{"start":110,"end":118,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Oh, they didn't? No, not television. Nobody carries speeches like that, darling. They didn't even put the ones on with the educators. But it gets good wire story."},{"start":118,"end":120,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"Oh, yeah. Because they thought—[crosstalk] people in California"},{"start":120,"end":121,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"[crosstalk] You know, networks don't—"},{"start":121,"end":123,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"didn't know anything about it, so—"},{"start":123,"end":126,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Well, you see, the networks don't put anything on. They don't give you free television."},{"start":126,"end":127,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"Right. Yeah."},{"start":127,"end":135,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"They have to buy television, or ask for the three of them. We're asking for tomorrow night, for example, on the war, you see? You see what I mean?"},{"start":135,"end":136,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"Right. Right."},{"start":136,"end":137,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Yeah, don't worry about that."},{"start":137,"end":143,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"Did you see the AP story in the paper about the meeting with the producers? It was so funny. It said Charlton Heston, said,"},{"start":143,"end":144,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Oh, did they like it?"},{"start":144,"end":151,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"Well, Charlton Heston said that they were impressed that, you know, \"The President is as concerned about movies as we are. He loves to go to the movies.\""},{"start":151,"end":151,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Yeah."},{"start":151,"end":159,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"And then they quoted, um, Jack Valenti. Jack Valenti said, \"The President said he hasn't been out to the movies in three years. He sees them in the White House.\""},{"start":159,"end":160,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"[laughs] That was pretty good, huh?"},{"start":160,"end":161,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"Yeah, it was [unintelligible]"},{"start":161,"end":163,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Did they say anything else about what we told them about—"},{"start":163,"end":164,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"Well, but, it was a good story."},{"start":164,"end":165,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"—the sex and all that?"},{"start":165,"end":166,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"Yeah, it was good, but it was just so—"},{"start":166,"end":167,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Yeah."},{"start":167,"end":169,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"—humorous, you know, the way it came off."},{"start":169,"end":170,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Well, did you see the beach thing, darling?"},{"start":170,"end":173,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"Yeah, the beach thing, I heard about on the radio, was just fantastic."},{"start":173,"end":174,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Yeah."},{"start":174,"end":176,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"Giving the people, what, six miles of beach?"},{"start":176,"end":177,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Yeah, that was really great."},{"start":177,"end":179,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"Six miles. Wow."},{"start":179,"end":181,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Well, look, I wouldn't worry about anything."},{"start":181,"end":182,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"No, I don't."},{"start":182,"end":197,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"The, uh, thing on the, uh—on the war, as I told you, is, don't worry about what the opponents are saying. They're just terrified that it's succeeded, you know, and that it's going to succeed, and that we're going to get out and are in good shape. So, uh, they're frantic."},{"start":197,"end":199,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"Right. I talked to Dwight yesterday."},{"start":199,"end":200,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Good. Tell him to get you on television."},{"start":200,"end":201,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"And he said—"},{"start":201,"end":202,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Get yourself on television."},{"start":202,"end":208,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"And, uh, well, you know what? We did—I had three press conferences and three TV interviews, and two press conferences today."},{"start":208,"end":212,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Well, see, but Dwight ought to give out stories in Washington about you, though, you see? That's what I mean."},{"start":212,"end":214,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"Right. Right. Well, tonight, you know,"},{"start":214,"end":215,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"All right."},{"start":215,"end":217,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"we're going to the dinner for David's ship."},{"start":217,"end":218,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Oh, grand."}],"transcriptCreatedAt":"2026-10-27T14:37:33.293Z","transcriptModel":"google/gemini-3.8-flash","transcriptSource":"audio-llm","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/042-002.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/042-002","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/042/conversation-042-002","catalogNaId":417187759,"catalogUrl":"https://catalog.archives.gov/id/417187759","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}