{"conversationCode":"042-032","tapeNumber":42,"conversationNumber":32,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-042-032","startDateTime":"1971-04-13T21:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-04-13T21:40:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Apr-1971","startTime":"4:25 PM","endDate":"13-Apr-1971","endTime":"4:40 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Connally, John B.;","description":"On April 13, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and John B. Connally talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:25 pm and 4:40 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 042-032 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 42-32\n\nDate: April 13, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 4:25 pm and 4:40 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator; the President and John B. Connally can be\nheard in the background.\n\n[See Conversation No. 247-4C]\n\n     Call to Gen. George A. Lincoln\n\n[The President conferred with Connally at an unknown time between 3:54 pm and 4:40 pm]\n\n     Forthcoming call to Lincoln\n          -Clifford M. Hardin","filename":["042-032.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:32:19","tapeEnd":"00:32:40","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator","Connally, John B."],"prevCode":"042-031","nextCode":"042-033","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":2.32,"text":"General Lincoln, please."},{"start":2.42,"end":6,"text":"Thank you, Mr. President."},{"start":6.02,"end":7.63,"text":"I said, I'll hand you the phone as soon as I tell him."},{"start":8.57,"end":9.23,"text":"You just tell him what?"},{"start":9.25,"end":13.28,"text":"Because I talked to him on the phone this morning, and I don't know anything about it, but I said what he was doing."},{"start":14.02,"end":15.76,"text":"But I want him to know exactly what to do."},{"start":16.62,"end":17.57,"text":"It may be to harden..."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Secretary of the Treasury John B. Connally coordinated a forthcoming telephone call to General George A. Lincoln. The discussion focused on establishing clear instructions for Lincoln regarding an unspecified matter, with the President ensuring Connally understood the necessary briefing points. The primary objective was to align their positions before initiating the conversation with the General.","topics":["George A. Lincoln","John B. Connally","White House coordination","Administrative policy","Clifford M. Hardin"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T06:17:00.689Z"},"topicSlugs":["george-a-lincoln","john-b-connally","white-house-coordination","administrative-policy","clifford-m-hardin"],"audioDurationSec":19,"audioFiles":[{"file":"042-032.mp3","bytes":237568,"durationSec":19.43,"bitrate":97813,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:30.085Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/042-032.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/042-032","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/42/conversation-042-032","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}