{"conversationCode":"042-085","tapeNumber":42,"conversationNumber":85,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-042-085","startDateTime":"1971-05-04T17:11:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-05-04T17:12:00.000Z","startDate":"4-May-1971","startTime":"1:11 PM","endDate":"4-May-1971","endTime":"1:12 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On May 4, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:11 pm and 1:12 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 042-085 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 42-85\n\nDate: May 4, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 1:11 pm and 1:12 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe White House operator talked with the President.\n\n[See Conversation No. 251-49]\n\n     William B. Macomber, Jr's location","filename":["042-085.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:22:01","tapeEnd":"02:22:16","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"042-084","nextCode":"042-086","transcript":[{"start":1.13,"end":5.48,"text":"Mr. President, Mr. McComber's having lunch, but he is up in the lunchroom at the stake."},{"start":5.54,"end":6.76,"text":"Could I get him there or leave work?"},{"start":6.92,"end":13.09,"text":"No, uh, uh... Oh, yeah, you can get in there if he's by, uh, and call me back."},{"start":13.23,"end":14.5,"text":"Fine, sir, I will."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directed the White House operator to contact William B. Macomber, Jr., who was currently eating lunch at the State Department. The operator acknowledged the request and committed to attempting to reach Macomber at that location. This brief exchange served as a logistical attempt to establish contact with the official for the President.","topics":["William B. Macomber Jr.","White House operator","logistics","communication"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T06:21:59.991Z"},"topicSlugs":["william-b-macomber-jr","white-house-operator","logistics","communication"],"audioDurationSec":14,"audioFiles":[{"file":"042-085.mp3","bytes":176732,"durationSec":14.49,"bitrate":97603,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:30.085Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/042-085.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/042-085","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/42/conversation-042-085","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}