{"conversationCode":"042-088","tapeNumber":42,"conversationNumber":88,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-042-088","startDateTime":"1971-05-05T17:16:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-05-05T19:00:00.000Z","startDate":"5-May-1971","startTime":"1:16 PM","endDate":"5-May-1971","endTime":"3:00 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Flanigan, Peter M.;","description":"On May 5, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Peter M. Flanigan talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:16 pm and 3:00 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 042-088 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 42-88\n\nDate: May 5, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 1:16 pm and 3:00 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Peter M. Flanigan.\n\n[See Conversation No. 252-32]\n\n     Meeting with Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger and Flanigan\n          -Political impact of federal projects\n          -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman","filename":["042-088.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:23:16","tapeEnd":"02:24:11","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Flanigan, Peter M."],"prevCode":"042-087","nextCode":"042-089","transcript":[{"start":0.44,"end":18.55,"text":"yeah mr flanagan sir yes sir yeah i wondered if you could get a hold of weinberger uh and see if uh we could get together at uh say three o'clock on that uh um"},{"start":20.91,"end":22.69,"text":"the idea of these federal projects."},{"start":22.75,"end":29.04,"text":"I talked to your program that you submitted, you know, for the political impact on these things."},{"start":29.48,"end":31.32,"text":"Yes, the one I submitted to Bob?"},{"start":31.4,"end":32.04,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":32.06,"end":32.52,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":32.6,"end":36.71,"text":"Actually, the key guy to work with there is Weinberger because that's where the money is, you know."},{"start":36.73,"end":36.93,"text":"Right."},{"start":37.35,"end":38.15,"text":"All these projects."},{"start":38.19,"end":41.83,"text":"So let's suppose, would you, are you free at three?"},{"start":42.08,"end":43.23,"text":"I'll make myself free."},{"start":43.25,"end":43.63,"text":"Or 2.30."},{"start":43.65,"end":44.55,"text":"2.30 better?"},{"start":44.99,"end":45.87,"text":"2.30 would be fine."},{"start":46.09,"end":46.62,"text":"Either time."},{"start":46.63,"end":47.48,"text":"2.30 or 3."},{"start":47.94,"end":50.87,"text":"And I'll be in the EOB at 2.30 and in the other office at 3."},{"start":50.89,"end":51.99,"text":"And you work it out with Weinberger."},{"start":52.03,"end":53.11,"text":"Either time is all right for me."},{"start":53.25,"end":53.55,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":53.69,"end":55,"text":"I'll be there."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon instructed Peter M. Flanigan to coordinate a meeting with Caspar Weinberger to discuss the political implications of various federal projects. Nixon emphasized that Weinberger’s involvement was essential given his control over project funding. The two agreed to finalize the scheduling details for a follow-up meeting to review the program previously submitted to H.R. Haldeman.","topics":["Federal projects","Caspar Weinberger","Political strategy","Budget allocation","Administration management"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T06:22:16.168Z"},"topicSlugs":["federal-projects","caspar-weinberger","political-strategy","budget-allocation","administration-management"],"audioDurationSec":55,"audioFiles":[{"file":"042-088.mp3","bytes":662248,"durationSec":54.97,"bitrate":96377,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:30.085Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/042-088.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/042-088","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/42/conversation-042-088","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}