{"conversationCode":"043-043","tapeNumber":43,"conversationNumber":43,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-043-043","startDateTime":"1973-02-08T01:08:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-08T01:09:00.000Z","startDate":"7-Feb-1973","startTime":"8:08 PM","endDate":"7-Feb-1973","endTime":"8:09 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On February 7, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 8:08 pm to 8:09 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 043-043 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 43-43\n\nDate: February 7, 1973\nTime: 8:08 pm - 8:09 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nStephen B. Bull talked with the President.\n\n       The President’s schedule\n            -Number of people at breakfast meeting\n                  -Location\n                  -Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.\n                  -John D. Ehrlichman\n                  -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n                  -Peter M. Flanigan\n                  -Ronald L. Ziegler\n                  -William Timmons","filename":["043-043.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"043-042","nextCode":"043-044","transcript":[{"start":0.37,"end":4.13,"text":"I have Mr. Steve Rule for you."},{"start":4.39,"end":5.29,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":5.31,"end":8.12,"text":"Steve, on the breakfast tomorrow, where is it being held?"},{"start":8.58,"end":9.7,"text":"In the state dining room?"},{"start":9.88,"end":11.24,"text":"Yes, sir, in the state dining room."},{"start":11.26,"end":21.47,"text":"And I wanted to tell you that since it is there, it's fine if they add some extra staff people, you know, because it looks very empty if there's too few people there."},{"start":21.49,"end":22.05,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":22.31,"end":23.13,"text":"I don't know what they've done."},{"start":23.17,"end":24.13,"text":"What do they have on staff?"},{"start":24.15,"end":27,"text":"They must have, of course, the top white-out staff, I hope."},{"start":27.06,"end":30.24,"text":"Yes, the top ones and Kenny Cole."},{"start":30.79,"end":35.2,"text":"Erlich and Haldeman."},{"start":35.22,"end":36.68,"text":"Flanagan should be there, I think."},{"start":36.72,"end":41.43,"text":"Flanagan, all right, sir."},{"start":41.45,"end":46.21,"text":"All right."},{"start":46.23,"end":48.94,"text":"And... Of course, Sigler will be there."},{"start":48.96,"end":49.72,"text":"Sigler should be there."},{"start":49.76,"end":51,"text":"Timmons?"},{"start":51.02,"end":52.52,"text":"Yes, we'll have Timmons there, sir."},{"start":52.62,"end":55.16,"text":"Timmons should be there."},{"start":56.38,"end":58.38,"text":"Do you want to seat them at the table, then, and have them eat?"},{"start":58.4,"end":59.95,"text":"Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, sure."},{"start":59.98,"end":62.77,"text":"Because, you see, it's such a big room, and the table is too small."},{"start":63.57,"end":63.81,"text":"Good."},{"start":64.56,"end":65.04,"text":"All right, fine."},{"start":65.06,"end":65.34,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":65.38,"end":67.38,"text":"Okay, thank you, Steve."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with his aide Stephen B. Bull regarding the logistics and guest list for an upcoming breakfast meeting in the State Dining Room. Concerned that the room's large size would make the gathering look sparse, Nixon directed Bull to increase the number of attending staff members. The President explicitly confirmed that key senior aides, including Kenneth Cole, John Ehrlichman, H.R. Haldeman, Peter Flanigan, Ronald Ziegler, and William Timmons, would be present and seated at the table.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","White House staff","State Dining Room","Logistics","Breakfast meeting"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T06:27:55.185Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","white-house-staff","state-dining-room","logistics","breakfast-meeting"],"audioDurationSec":74,"audioFiles":[{"file":"043-043.mp3","bytes":1770074,"durationSec":73.61,"bitrate":192364,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:30.403Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/043-043.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/043-043","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/43/conversation-043-043","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}