{"conversationCode":"043-117","tapeNumber":43,"conversationNumber":117,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-043-117","startDateTime":"1973-02-20T20:12:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-20T20:13:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Feb-1973","startTime":"3:12 PM","endDate":"20-Feb-1973","endTime":"3:13 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On February 20, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 3:12 pm to 3:13 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 043-117 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 43-117\n\nDate: February 20, 1973\nTime: 3:12 pm - 3:13 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[See Conversation No. 411-3]\n\n       The President’s schedule\n            -Norman Vincent Peale\n                  -Church service at the White House\n                         -Length of sermon","filename":["043-117.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"043-116","nextCode":"043-118","transcript":[{"start":1.28,"end":3.78,"text":"Are we able to get P.O."},{"start":3.84,"end":5.03,"text":"for Sunday?"},{"start":5.04,"end":6.75,"text":"They don't have a confirmation back, sir."},{"start":6.87,"end":11.63,"text":"He's away this afternoon, and we should know by the end of the day."},{"start":11.71,"end":15.4,"text":"If they get him, I don't want the limitation of 10 minutes on him."},{"start":15.42,"end":17.62,"text":"Tell him we'd like for him to talk about 20 minutes."},{"start":17.64,"end":18.3,"text":"All right, fine, sir."},{"start":18.34,"end":20.35,"text":"What do we usually tell him, 10, 15?"},{"start":20.37,"end":21.93,"text":"I think they tell him about 10 minutes, sir."},{"start":22.77,"end":28.3,"text":"But I want him to take a little more time because he's such a good speaker that, say, he can go 20 minutes."},{"start":28.32,"end":28.96,"text":"All right, fine, sir."},{"start":29.53,"end":30.26,"text":"Okay."},{"start":30.28,"end":30.78,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":30.8,"end":31.09,"text":"Bye."},{"start":31.19,"end":32.6,"text":"Whatever it is."},{"start":32.72,"end":32.8,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with Stephen B. Bull regarding the scheduling of Reverend Norman Vincent Peale for an upcoming White House church service. The President explicitly requested to extend the expected length of Peale’s sermon from the standard 10 minutes to 20 minutes due to his admiration for the minister’s speaking abilities. Bull committed to relaying this directive to the appropriate parties once the Reverend’s participation was confirmed.","topics":["Norman Vincent Peale","White House schedule","Church services","Stephen B. Bull","Sermon length"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T06:34:44.469Z"},"topicSlugs":["norman-vincent-peale","white-house-schedule","church-services","stephen-b-bull","sermon-length"],"audioDurationSec":40,"audioFiles":[{"file":"043-117.mp3","bytes":952913,"durationSec":39.56,"bitrate":192702,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:30.085Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/043-117.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/043-117","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/43/conversation-043-117","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}