Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 43 › Conversation 043-142
Nixon phone call with Eisenhower on White House social events
Wednesday, February 21, 1973 · 10:04 AM–10:08 AM ET · White House Telephone · 4 min
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President Nixon and his daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, discussed recent public reception of the President's trip to South Carolina and the logistics of upcoming White House social events, including a church service with Norman Vincent Peale and a dinner for Golda Meir. Julie provided an update on her attendance at a Van Cliburn performance and his upcoming engagement at the White House. The President also addressed an administrative issue regarding White House staff, noting that he had consulted with Rex Scouten about the citizenship requirements for hiring waiters.
- White House social events
- South Carolina visit
- Van Cliburn
- Norman Vincent Peale
- White House staffing
- Golda Meir
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i just want to see how you were doing i read about your trip to columbia it sounds like it was a really good trip yes it was i think it was fine people were nice weren't they yeah well you know how it is they some of them remembered your trip there the fellow the congressman the newly elected republicans said that you really helped him when you came down there so we're fine well how's uh is your everything all right at the apartment and so forth you know it was
will never be the same because of your visit.
The coverage was so fabulous, I've mailed it all to Mommy.
Good, I'm glad you did.
Oh, they, you know, they just said they're warm and friendly, President Nixon, and told about how you met the little first graders, and talked with the POW, you know, not the POW, but about them.
Sure, sure.
Oh, it was just great.
Right, right.
Really, really nice.
I wanted to tell you that, incidentally, that we're going to have Norman Vincent Peale for the church service next Sunday.
And I wondered if maybe you'd like to come up to it and then be here next week because we have the governors on the 28th and we have the Golda Meir on the 1st.
Now, I don't know whether that's... And then we have an evening on the White House the following Saturday.
But I don't know whether you'd like to come or whether you think it'd be well to wait a little while.
What do you think?
Why don't I ask David about it?
Right.
Is the Peel speaking this Sunday?
This Sunday, yeah.
If David could come too, it would be great.
Yeah.
That's nice you're having that.
Yeah, we're having him first.
I mean, he's such a good speaker, you know, that he's so much better than most that it'll be a good thing.
I wanted to tell you that I saw Van Cliburn perform last night.
Oh, you did?
The one-night stand of the Jacksonville Symphony.
Yeah?
He did Rachmaninoff.
He did.
He was terrific, and we went back afterwards to congratulate him.
Did you?
Yeah, and he's really looking forward to coming.
For the Meyer?
Yes.
Great.
And he wants to know if his mother could be invited, so I'm going to call Lucy and see if she can come.
Sure, sure.
But he's really thrilled about coming.
And he was saying, well, can I practice on the spinet piano on the third floor and all this stuff?
But he's really...
He's so colorful, isn't he, everything?
He is.
He gave three ovations last night, three encores.
Isn't that terrific?
People just sat in their seats and didn't leave.
It was just a real tribute to him.
Well, I'm glad.
It was good.
Well, I'm sorry that we had bad weather in Florida.
We have bad luck, haven't we?
I wanted to tell you that I spoke to Rex about the waiters.
Yeah.
He said that they are using Filipinos, but the problem with getting white waiters is that the ones who are available are Cuban, and they're not citizens, and there's a government regulation.
I see.
Isn't that too bad?
Yeah.
So he's going to check in to see if they can waive that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right, right, right, right.
Yeah.
Okay.
But, yeah, we had a great reception in South Carolina, and everybody's feeling good, and I just hope things are going well.
The present thing is that David will probably be off the 31st, but not before then, right?
Right.
But isn't that great?
But the fact that he'll be off then is great.
That's right.
Really good.
But you ought to plan to pop up here when you can, you know?
Yeah, I will.
And don't hesitate.
You see, you can come on the plane.
There's no problem at all.
No problem.
none at all no that's great so uh you if you can come to church fine if you can't that's perfectly right too are you having you're not having any event saturday night are you no no no no no no not saturday night next weekend next weekend is the evening at the white house and we have two events in the middle of the week the governors we're not inviting clipper this sunday because
group, and Rose didn't think she'd be comfortable in the group.
Oh, okay.
Well, we'll just have her some future time.
We are going to, yeah.
Fine.
Good.
Okay.
Well, I'll talk to you real soon, then.
Right, honey, and just you and David have a good time.
Good.
Bye.
NARA Description
On February 21, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked on the telephone from 10:04 am to 10:08 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 043-142 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 43-142
Date: February 21, 1973
Time: 10:04 am - 10:08 am
Location: White House Telephone
The President talked with Julie Nixon Eisenhower.
[See Conversation No. 859-13A]
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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift during
chronological review 2007-2013]
The President’s schedule
-Columbia, South Carolina
-Newly elected Congressman
-Atlantic Beach
-The President’s visit
-[first name unknown] Chesire
-Public reaction
-Press coverage
-Prisoners of War [POWs]
-Norman Vincent Peale
-White House church service
-Governors
-Dinner for Golda Meir
-Evening at the White House
-[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
-Van Cliburn performance
-Jacksonville Symphony
-Lucy Winchester
-Weather in Florida
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Conversation No. 43-142 (cont’d)
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 05/24/2021.
Segment will remain closed.]
[Personal Returnable]
[043-142-w001]
[Duration: 28s]
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White House personnel
-Waiters
-Rex W. Scouten
-Nationalities
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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift during
chronological review 2007-2013]
The President’s schedule
-South Carolina
David Eisenhower
Julie’s schedule
-Use of airplane
-White House church service
-Evening at the White House
-Governors
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Conversation No. 43-142 (cont’d)
-[first name unknown] Clifford
-Congressional event
-Rose Mary Woods
*****************************************************************Also recorded on February 21, 1973
- 859-010 9:55 AM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:55 am and 9:58 am.
- 859-011 9:55 AM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:55 am and 9:58 am.
- 043-140 9:56 AM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 9:56 am.
- 043-141 9:56 AM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:56 am and 10:04 am.
- 859-013 9:58 AM · 9 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:58 am to 10:08 am.
- 043-143 10:04 AM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:04 am and 10:16 am.
- 859-014 10:08 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:08 am and 10:16 am.
- 859-015 10:08 AM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:08 am and 10:16 am.
Cite this conversation
Conversation 043-142, February 21, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/043-142 (accessed October 11, 2026).