{"conversationCode":"043-174","tapeNumber":43,"conversationNumber":174,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-043-174","startDateTime":"1973-02-22T20:16:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-22T20:17:00.000Z","startDate":"22-Feb-1973","startTime":"3:16 PM","endDate":"22-Feb-1973","endTime":"3:17 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On February 22, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 3:16 pm to 3:17 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 043-174 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 43-174\n\nDate: February 22, 1973\nTime: 3:16 pm - 3:17 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\f                                             -101-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                             Conversation No. 43-172 (cont’d)\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[See Conversation No. 411-18E]\n\n       The President’s schedule\n            -Richard G. Kleindienst\n                  -Possible meeting\n                  -John D. Ehrlichman\n                  -Public announcement\n                         -Crime policy","filename":["043-174.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"043-173","nextCode":"043-175","transcript":[{"start":0.94,"end":7.03,"text":"Sir, Steve, would you see if... We have nothing at 10 o'clock tomorrow, have we?"},{"start":7.05,"end":7.43,"text":"No, sir."},{"start":9.55,"end":12.72,"text":"See if a client could come over to him."},{"start":12.8,"end":14.96,"text":"I'd just like to have a talk with him about a half hour."},{"start":14.98,"end":16.12,"text":"Do you want John Ehrlichman there, sir?"},{"start":16.32,"end":19.48,"text":"No, just him alone."},{"start":19.5,"end":19.95,"text":"Unannounced, sir?"},{"start":24.67,"end":25.71,"text":"Unannounced."},{"start":26.57,"end":27.59,"text":"No, I think it should be announced."},{"start":27.84,"end":29.72,"text":"He just..."},{"start":30.62,"end":31.93,"text":"He's coming over, yes."},{"start":32.07,"end":35.2,"text":"I just want to discuss our crime program."},{"start":35.74,"end":36.64,"text":"All right, sir, fine."},{"start":36.66,"end":38.1,"text":"But I want to talk to him alone about it."},{"start":38.56,"end":39.27,"text":"All right, very good, sir."},{"start":39.29,"end":41.73,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directs Stephen Bull to schedule an unannounced meeting for the following morning with Attorney General Richard G. Kleindienst. Nixon specifies that he wishes to meet with Kleindienst alone to discuss the administration's crime policy. Although Bull suggests a public announcement for the meeting, the President emphasizes the need for a private, thirty-minute consultation.","topics":["Richard G. Kleindienst","Crime policy","Scheduling","White House operations","Presidential meetings"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T06:39:45.200Z"},"topicSlugs":["richard-g-kleindienst","crime-policy","scheduling","white-house-operations","presidential-meetings"],"audioDurationSec":47,"audioFiles":[{"file":"043-174.mp3","bytes":1122186,"durationSec":46.61,"bitrate":192594,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:30.403Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:43.865Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/043-174.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/043-174","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/43/conversation-043-174","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}