Conversation 043-191

TapeTape 43StartFriday, February 23, 1973 at 3:29 PMEndFriday, February 23, 1973 at 3:32 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bush, George H. W.Recording deviceWhite House Telephone

On February 23, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and George H. W. Bush talked on the telephone from 3:29 pm to 3:32 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 043-191 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 43-191

Date: February 23, 1973
Time: 3:29 pm - 3:32 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with George H. W. Bush.
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                                                             Conversation No. 43-191 (cont’d)

[See Conversation No. 413-13]

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      The President’s speech to the South Carolina legislature
           -Republican women candidates
                 -Harry S. Dent
                 -Lenore Romney
                 -Speaker of the House, South Carolina
                 -Janet Johnson

      Ken Reitz
           -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                 -Congressional Campaign Committee
           -Robert Michel
           -Clarence J. (“Bud”) Brown, Jr. [?]

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      Public relations
            -Bush’s efforts
            -The President’s domestic programs
                   -Bush’s view
                        -Rochester, New York
                              -Mayor
                        -Jobs, taxes, cost of living
                   -Spending programs
                        -Human resources

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I had Mr. George Bush.
Yeah.
You were, sir.
George.
Mr. President.
I had nothing of great importance.
I know you're important.
But it's a thought that occurred to me when I spoke to the South Carolina legislature.
I noticed a couple of very attractive women, both of them Republicans in the legislature, and one good-looking and great, and they had won and so forth.
I spoke to Harry Dent about it when he came in to see me the other day, and I said, you know,
Some of these districts, if they can do it in the South, I'm rather surprised they were there.
It may be that against some of these, I don't want to go through the Lenora Romney thing, but I want you to be sure to emphasize to our people, God, let's look for some because, and I understand I don't look because I'm for women, but I think maybe a woman might win someplace or a man might not.
Have you got that in mind?
I will certainly keep it in mind, sir.
Fine.
And if you talk to Harry about it, he'll tell you how they found these women.
I don't know how they did, but these were two in the state legislature, you see?
Yeah, that's great.
And they were good looking and bright.
And they told me the Democrat, who's a speaker, said they're two of the best members of the House.
Well, that's terrific, and I hope this Janet Johnson, when she gets on board next week, she's young herself and attractive, and we've got to get her folded well into the recruiting and the candidates.
Incidentally, Sir Reese, Ken Reese, is going to start, I think, on March 3rd or 5th.
And he'll be planning a while.
I don't know if Bob Haldeman told you about my call regarding the Congressional Campaign Committee thing.
Yeah, I heard about that.
And it may be fine.
Michael's fine.
He's a friend.
And if you could get the two of them, it'd be great.
Well, I think the thing I want to be sure is that it wouldn't cause you any trouble if it went that route.
We didn't talk to Brown.
Yeah.
Well, this would be good.
And it'll work one way or the other.
And I think that would be helpful.
I'm not dishearing your advice, but I was locked into a couple of these Lincoln days, but it finished today, so we'll be blessed here.
I'm sure they all love you.
Okay.
I don't know about that.
It's going good.
I'll send you a little note.
You getting a good reception?
Well, I think so.
You are.
I'll tell you, you're going to win this.
I was up in Rochester last night.
They had 2,000 people.
New York?
Yeah, and they had this...
this whole group of all these New York State fellas, and the mayor came up and gave me a slight protest on the city stuff, but then I said, look, he's going to win this thing, and he said, I know it.
He said, it's very, very clear to me.
He says, all I'm saying is I'm a Republican mayor, and if there's any way you can help, I said, well, hell, maybe we can find something.
But the thing that impressed me was here was an urban...
you know, not the center city, New York City, but the big city.
And very socially conscious, too.
Yes, sir.
And they think, you know, nobody tells me they think we're going to lose on this tack of taxes and keeping the cost of living.
And it's, of course, down here where it's probably... Of course, the other thing, too, is, George, that we are spending one hell of a lot of money.
We've...
We're spending twice as much today on what we call human resources as we did four years ago.
Now, that's just an awful lot of dough.
We're hammering on that, and I'm beginning to feel good about it all.
All right.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Have a good visit.
Thank you, sir.