{"conversationCode":"043-219","tapeNumber":43,"conversationNumber":219,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-043-219","startDateTime":"1973-02-22T19:45:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-22T19:47:00.000Z","startDate":"22-Feb-1973","startTime":"2:45 PM","endDate":"22-Feb-1973","endTime":"2:47 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Albert, Carl B.;","description":"On February 22, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Carl B. Albert talked on the telephone from 2:45 pm to 2:47 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 043-219 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 43-219\n\nDate: February 22, 1973\nTime: 2:45 pm - 2:47 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Carl B. Albert.\n\n[See Conversation No. 411-18A]\n\n       The People’s Republic of China [PRC]\n            -Gerald R. Ford\n            -Henry A. Kissinger’s meetings\n                  -Trips to the PRC by US members of Congress\n                        -Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield\n                        -Ford, Thomas P. (“Tip”) O’Neill, Albert","filename":["043-219.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Albert, Carl B."],"prevCode":"043-218","nextCode":"043-220","transcript":[{"start":0.74,"end":1.16,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":1.18,"end":4.2,"text":"I have Speaker Alder for you."},{"start":4.22,"end":4.46,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":5.29,"end":5.41,"text":"Hello."},{"start":5.43,"end":5.93,"text":"Hello, Mr. President."},{"start":5.95,"end":21.15,"text":"One thing I wanted to tell you, I didn't want to get into it at the breakfast, but for your information, and you can talk to Jerry about it, we, Henry did talk to them about the possibility of future people coming."},{"start":21.81,"end":29.08,"text":"As you probably know, Mike has indicated a desire to go again, or maybe you don't know, and so we're sort of"},{"start":29.58,"end":45.93,"text":"got that on the on the pan for one thing but but henry then i had told him this said that it raised the point of the house members you know because we want to be sure the house doesn't get a good look they will uh they will be cooperative on that what i meant is that with all the"},{"start":46.49,"end":49.57,"text":"It's frankly up to you and Jerry, of course, working with that."},{"start":49.59,"end":56.6,"text":"But you and Jerry, I would say, on a very closely held basis, should sort of look over all those things and then recommend us."},{"start":58.25,"end":61.69,"text":"And we'll see that the House gets the right kind of a shake on it."},{"start":62.07,"end":62.69,"text":"Okay."},{"start":62.71,"end":64.9,"text":"So I just want to pass that on to you."},{"start":65.14,"end":65.58,"text":"Okay."},{"start":66.1,"end":66.84,"text":"All right."},{"start":66.86,"end":67.9,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":67.92,"end":68.02,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with Speaker of the House Carl Albert regarding the selection of House members for future diplomatic visits to the People's Republic of China. Nixon advised Albert to coordinate closely with House Minority Leader Gerald Ford to recommend a delegation that would ensure fair and cooperative representation for the House. This conversation served to delegate the vetting process to congressional leadership, with the President pledging to facilitate the administration's approval of their choices.","topics":["People's Republic of China","Congressional diplomacy","Carl B. Albert","Gerald R. Ford","Foreign policy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T06:43:55.981Z"},"topicSlugs":["peoples-republic-of-china","congressional-diplomacy","carl-b-albert","gerald-r-ford","foreign-policy"],"audioDurationSec":73,"audioFiles":[{"file":"043-219.mp3","bytes":1766052,"durationSec":73.45,"bitrate":192345,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:30.403Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/043-219.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/043-219","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/43/conversation-043-219","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}