{"conversationCode":"044-038","tapeNumber":44,"conversationNumber":38,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-044-038","startDateTime":"1973-03-28T14:01:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-28T14:44:00.000Z","startDate":"28-Mar-1973","startTime":"9:01 AM","endDate":"28-Mar-1973","endTime":"9:44 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On March 28, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:01 am and 9:44 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 044-038 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 044-038\n\nDate: March 28, 1973\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\nTime: Unknown between 9:01 am and 9:44 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 421-25]\n\n       Call to Ronald L. Ziegler","filename":["044-038.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"044-037","nextCode":"044-039","transcript":[{"start":3.54,"end":4.64,"text":"Yes, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon contacted the White House operator to facilitate a telephone call to Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler. The conversation serves strictly as an administrative request to establish a connection with a key staff member. No substantive political or policy discussions took place during this brief interaction.","topics":["Ronald L. Ziegler","White House operations","Administrative communications","Press Secretary"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T06:47:44.232Z"},"topicSlugs":["ronald-l-ziegler","white-house-operations","administrative-communications","press-secretary"],"audioDurationSec":7,"audioFiles":[{"file":"044-038.mp3","bytes":272384,"durationSec":6.7,"bitrate":325189,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:30.404Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:44.247Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/044-038.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/044-038","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/44/conversation-044-038","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}