{"conversationCode":"044-046","tapeNumber":44,"conversationNumber":46,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-044-046","startDateTime":"1973-03-28T17:34:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-28T17:35:00.000Z","startDate":"28-Mar-1973","startTime":"12:34 PM","endDate":"28-Mar-1973","endTime":"12:35 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. (Ryan) (Pat);","description":"On March 28, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:34 pm and 12:35 pm. 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(“Pat”) Nixon.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 425-8]\n\n       Mrs. Nixon's schedule\n            -Trip\n                  -Means of transportation\n\n       President's schedule\n             -Social function\n                    -Soviet Union\n             -President’s March 29 speech\n                    -Preparation","filename":["044-046.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Nixon, Thelma C. (Ryan) (Pat)"],"prevCode":"044-045","nextCode":"044-047","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":4.06,"text":"Well, you're taking off at 3, huh?"},{"start":4.6,"end":5.36,"text":"Well, no, 4."},{"start":5.46,"end":6.78,"text":"I'm not going to go by helicopter."},{"start":6.82,"end":7.92,"text":"I'm going to drive out."},{"start":8.08,"end":9,"text":"Oh, I see."},{"start":9.02,"end":14.23,"text":"Yeah, I didn't want to get out there too early because people wanted me to do things tonight."},{"start":14.25,"end":14.97,"text":"Fine, fine."},{"start":15.07,"end":15.43,"text":"Sure, sure."},{"start":15.45,"end":16.41,"text":"So we're going to drive at 4."},{"start":16.43,"end":18.74,"text":"Well, then we'll see you then maybe Friday night."},{"start":18.88,"end":19.16,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":19.18,"end":21.2,"text":"Are you going to go to that Soviet thing?"},{"start":21.38,"end":23.9,"text":"Everybody's after me to find out if you're going to that."},{"start":24.92,"end":25.14,"text":"What is it?"},{"start":25.92,"end":27.58,"text":"I think it's Thursday night."},{"start":27.6,"end":31.61,"text":"You know, we talked about it once, and you said you might drop by after dinner for a minute."},{"start":31.62,"end":32.09,"text":"No, no."},{"start":32.11,"end":33.17,"text":"No, I'm not going to."},{"start":33.23,"end":33.87,"text":"I can't."},{"start":33.89,"end":35.15,"text":"I don't think I can do it."},{"start":35.17,"end":38.29,"text":"I've got to do this broadcast at 9 o'clock, and I don't..."},{"start":38.31,"end":38.41,"text":"When?"},{"start":38.43,"end":38.59,"text":"Tonight?"},{"start":39.02,"end":39.44,"text":"Tomorrow night."},{"start":39.74,"end":40.76,"text":"Oh."},{"start":40.78,"end":40.98,"text":"Oh."},{"start":41.64,"end":45.64,"text":"So that's what I'm working on, and I couldn't do anything, so I don't plan to do the Soviet thing."},{"start":47.17,"end":47.59,"text":"Okay."},{"start":47.99,"end":48.63,"text":"All right, fine."},{"start":48.65,"end":49.23,"text":"We'll see you then."},{"start":49.61,"end":49.81,"text":"Okay."},{"start":49.95,"end":50.03,"text":"Bye."},{"start":51.05,"end":51.13,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and First Lady Pat Nixon discussed logistical arrangements for their upcoming travel schedules and social obligations. The President confirmed he would not attend a Soviet-related social function scheduled for Thursday evening, citing his need to focus on preparations for a nationally televised speech on March 29. 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