{"conversationCode":"044-085","tapeNumber":44,"conversationNumber":85,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-044-085","startDateTime":"1973-03-29T23:35:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-29T23:36:00.000Z","startDate":"29-Mar-1973","startTime":"6:35 PM","endDate":"29-Mar-1973","endTime":"6:36 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On March 29, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 6:35 pm and 6:36 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 044-085 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 044-085\n\nDate: March 29, 1973\nTime: 6:35 pm-6:36 pm\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nStephen B. Bull talked with the President.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 426-24A]\n\n       President's suit\n             -William H. Carruthers's recommendation\n\n       Makeup","filename":["044-085.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"044-084","nextCode":"044-086","transcript":[{"start":0.08,"end":2.45,"text":"Yep."},{"start":3.05,"end":4.92,"text":"Mr. Bull calling?"},{"start":4.93,"end":5.01,"text":"Yep."},{"start":5.04,"end":5.24,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":5.26,"end":5.38,"text":"Ready?"},{"start":5.4,"end":5.5,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":5.52,"end":8.26,"text":"Mr. President, Carruthers recommends the dark blue suits."},{"start":8.32,"end":9.21,"text":"All right, fine."},{"start":9.23,"end":13.18,"text":"And make up in Alex's old office around 830 or when you're ready for it, sir."},{"start":14.34,"end":14.62,"text":"Yeah, okay."},{"start":15.12,"end":15.64,"text":"All right, thank you, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull coordinate preparations for an upcoming public appearance or media event. Bull relays a recommendation from William H. Carruthers that the President wear a dark blue suit. The two also confirm logistical arrangements for the President to receive makeup application in a designated office space.","topics":["Presidential appearance","Wardrobe","William H. Carruthers","Public relations","Logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T06:52:41.108Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-appearance","wardrobe","william-h-carruthers","public-relations","logistics"],"audioDurationSec":17,"audioFiles":[{"file":"044-085.mp3","bytes":696320,"durationSec":17.3,"bitrate":322077,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:30.403Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:44.253Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/044-085.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/044-085","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/44/conversation-044-085","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}