On March 29, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:39 pm and 9:41 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 044-086 of the White House Tapes.
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Mr. President, I have Dr. Kissinger calling.
Oh, yeah, okay.
Thank you.
Hello, Mr. President.
Oh, hello, Henry.
How are you?
I thought it went extremely well.
Very well delivered, and I think it serves its purpose extremely well as far as the domestic opinion is concerned.
the story will be on the meat prices.
Oh, yes, that'll override everything else, you know.
We certainly don't want to debate on Vietnam right now.
No, but the point is, I knew that override, but it's well to remind the people about Vietnam and about the defense budget.
I think it's very good, because if it was only Vietnam, it would have been...
They'd say, what's the whole story?
Well, and you would have had...
Full pride in everybody.
I think we've stuck a lot to them.
And I was going to say, as far as our chief audience is concerned on foreign policy in Peking, Moscow, and Hanoi, this was a very strong speech.
And it will have its effect.
Well, that's the main thing.
The main thing is the effect on the American people, too, just to stiffen their backs on the defense cuts, which I think we did.
I mean, it's very hard.
That was pretty bad.
And also, the first time explained the reason for the impoundment.
Sure.
I mean, I, for example, didn't know that we had increased some of the social welfare expenses.
Doubled.
Doubled.
Doubled, right?
By the amount that we had.
And using that Truman thing, the buck stops here, I thought was pretty good.
Yeah.
But you know, the most important thing in it is something that you would not probably, well, you would feel it, but I would.
was what i said at the last about the spirit i think that believe me what the guy that told me that was reisner you know and he broke down and cried when he told me you know you know i think that it's the key helen and when he said you know it was faith you know and he said i can't it's hard for me to say this and i tried to stop him he says then he just cried and said it was faith and that's that's the thing henry people have got to have a little faith
Without it, it's impossible to do anything that is difficult.
Anyway, you got it done, and your friends won't like it, and the liberals.
Oh, Christ, they're going to die.
You notice how I stuck it to them on amnesty, but that had to be done.
And, you know, I wasn't divisive, though.
I said, let us put aside the divisions that have divided us.
because, go ahead, I was very generous.
It was a good moment to make it, and it was essential.
But I wasn't too rough on the opposition.
What did you think?
Well, as you remember this afternoon, my recommendation was to go further.
But you know, as you noticed, but it was good to remind them of Cambodia, to remind them of the rest.
I think it was just as well you didn't.
Yeah.
Your instinct was right.
Yeah, we'll see.
We'll see.
Okay, Henry.
Congratulations.
Bye-bye.