{"conversationCode":"044-109","tapeNumber":44,"conversationNumber":109,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-044-109","startDateTime":"1973-04-09T17:07:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-09T17:13:00.000Z","startDate":"9-Apr-1973","startTime":"12:07 PM","endDate":"9-Apr-1973","endTime":"12:13 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On April 9, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:07 pm and 12:13 pm. 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(“Billy”) Graham\n             -Location\n                   -Pittsburgh\n             -Return call\n                   -Diplomatic reception\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n       Call from Julie Nixon Eisenhower\n\nThe President talked with Julie Nixon Eisenhower between 12:11 pm and 12:13 pm.\n\n******************************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift during\nchronological review 2007-2013]\n\n       Republican party\n            -George H. W. Bush\n                  -State chairmen\n                  -[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II’s plans\n                        -George A. Goodling\n                        -Hugh Scott\n                        -Martin G. Hamberger\n\n******************************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 05/29/2019.\nSegment will remain closed.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[044-109-w001]\n[Duration: 35s]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n******************************************************************************\n\n       President’s schedule\n             -John D. Ehrlichman\n                   -Trade bill\n                   -Congress\n             -Dinner\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n******************************************************************************","filename":["044-109.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"044-108","nextCode":"044-110","transcript":[{"start":0.3,"end":8.03,"text":"Mr. President, Reverend Graham is expected in Pittsburgh at 3 p.m. May we leave word for him to return the call?"},{"start":8.05,"end":8.78,"text":"Let's see, 3, 3."},{"start":10.3,"end":14.98,"text":"No, I'll be doing some non-diplomatic reception."},{"start":16.45,"end":18.93,"text":"I think if he could maybe call around..."},{"start":24.36,"end":27.09,"text":"I'll have to return the call to him because I will..."},{"start":27.69,"end":28.25,"text":"Very good."},{"start":28.27,"end":30.17,"text":"And I have Julie for you now."},{"start":30.51,"end":31.07,"text":"I have Julie."},{"start":31.13,"end":31.59,"text":"You're welcome."},{"start":31.61,"end":33.34,"text":"You tell him to call."},{"start":33.84,"end":33.96,"text":"Right."},{"start":33.98,"end":35.32,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":35.34,"end":35.62,"text":"There you are."},{"start":35.64,"end":36.16,"text":"Hello."},{"start":36.18,"end":36.3,"text":"Hi."},{"start":36.56,"end":36.96,"text":"Hi, Julie."},{"start":36.98,"end":37.5,"text":"How are you?"},{"start":37.7,"end":37.76,"text":"Hi."},{"start":37.78,"end":38.02,"text":"How are you?"},{"start":38.04,"end":51.5,"text":"I want you to know that I've had been in touch through our staff with George Bush, and he's going to check out some of these things and give me a report on it."},{"start":52.48,"end":54.62,"text":"you know, and with the state chairman and that sort of thing."},{"start":55.55,"end":62.81,"text":"But Bush is the best guy to do this, and also he's going to check with Goodling and Scott and the rest, because he's so anxious for David to go."},{"start":63.85,"end":91.63,"text":"meantime why you and david just don't worry about it i mean you know these are something where just we'll decide what to do and then we'll go one way or the other right i think you're right and uh you're really sweet and i know i i'm sure i think i know what it's right to do but i want to water with these guys and george george bush is going to see whether he'll find out whether goodling wants to come in to see me which i'll see him of course if he does the scott thing out to see where the"},{"start":91.61,"end":96.37,"text":"Spans with hamburger, you'll have to check with the state chairman to find a way to do it."},{"start":132.2,"end":140,"text":"going to have to stay over here tonight for a meeting with John Ehrlichman on the trade bill, because we're going to present to the Congress tomorrow, so I won't be over for dinner."},{"start":140.2,"end":140.9,"text":"Okay."},{"start":140.92,"end":142.72,"text":"So you go ahead and have dinner at 6 o'clock, okay?"},{"start":142.74,"end":143.63,"text":"All right, great."},{"start":143.65,"end":144.71,"text":"All right, sweetie."},{"start":144.85,"end":145.63,"text":"Thanks for everything, Daddy."},{"start":145.65,"end":145.73,"text":"Bye."},{"start":145.87,"end":145.95,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with the White House operator to coordinate a return call with Reverend Billy Graham, who was traveling to Pittsburgh. Following this, the President spoke with his daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, to discuss political efforts involving George H. W. Bush regarding David Eisenhower’s future plans. Nixon concluded the conversation by informing his daughter that he would miss dinner due to a meeting with John Ehrlichman concerning upcoming trade bill legislation.","topics":["Billy Graham","Julie Nixon Eisenhower","George H. W. 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