{"conversationCode":"044-141","tapeNumber":44,"conversationNumber":141,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-044-141","startDateTime":"1973-04-10T23:17:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-10T23:18:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Apr-1973","startTime":"6:17 PM","endDate":"10-Apr-1973","endTime":"6:18 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Eisenhower, Julie Nixon;","description":"On April 10, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked on the telephone from 6:17 pm to 6:18 pm. 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Devine\n\n******************************************************************************","filename":["044-141.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Eisenhower, Julie Nixon"],"prevCode":"044-140","nextCode":"044-142","transcript":[{"start":0.5,"end":1.78,"text":"Hi, Daddy."},{"start":2.19,"end":12.48,"text":"Oh, I wanted to tell you that I got your call about bowling."},{"start":13.38,"end":16,"text":"I bowled last night, and I got a little blister on my right hand."},{"start":16.02,"end":16.92,"text":"Oh, no."},{"start":17.24,"end":18.42,"text":"Just a small one, you know what I mean?"},{"start":18.44,"end":18.68,"text":"Was it fun?"},{"start":19.24,"end":19.98,"text":"Oh, I had a lot of fun."},{"start":20.06,"end":21.39,"text":"I bowled two nights in a row now."},{"start":21.97,"end":22.07,"text":"Good."},{"start":22.11,"end":24.47,"text":"This alley is a great, great invention."},{"start":35.74,"end":37.32,"text":"David had a good talk with Devine."},{"start":37.34,"end":38.54,"text":"He was a wonderful guy."},{"start":38.8,"end":40.51,"text":"He is a great guy, yeah."},{"start":40.52,"end":43.71,"text":"And we can make progress on things."},{"start":43.89,"end":44.35,"text":"We really do."},{"start":45.57,"end":46.69,"text":"It's going to work out."},{"start":46.71,"end":47.41,"text":"Just take your time."},{"start":47.77,"end":48.02,"text":"Right."},{"start":50.04,"end":50.42,"text":"Okay."},{"start":50.48,"end":53.38,"text":"Well, listen, thanks a million for everything, all your time, Daddy."},{"start":53.76,"end":54.27,"text":"Oh, no, no."},{"start":54.28,"end":58.79,"text":"We're trying to work this thing out, and I think we've got a scheme here yet that'll work."},{"start":58.83,"end":59.29,"text":"Okay."},{"start":59.43,"end":59.81,"text":"Okay."},{"start":59.93,"end":60.61,"text":"All right, sweetie."},{"start":61.3,"end":61.38,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, held a brief personal check-in to discuss recent recreational activities and family matters. Julie reported on her recent bowling sessions at the White House alley, while the President touched upon David Eisenhower's productive meeting with Congressman Samuel L. Devine. The conversation concluded with an optimistic outlook regarding ongoing efforts to resolve unspecified political or personal challenges.","topics":["White House recreational facilities","David Eisenhower","Samuel L. 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