{"conversationCode":"044-156","tapeNumber":44,"conversationNumber":156,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-044-156","startDateTime":"1973-04-12T19:27:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-12T19:28:00.000Z","startDate":"12-Apr-1973","startTime":"2:27 PM","endDate":"12-Apr-1973","endTime":"2:28 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Eisenhower, Julie Nixon;","description":"On April 12, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:27 pm and 2:28 pm. 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(President)","Eisenhower, Julie Nixon"],"prevCode":"044-155","nextCode":"044-157","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":3.31,"text":"I have jewelry for you, sir."},{"start":4.74,"end":4.94,"text":"Hello."},{"start":5.1,"end":5.5,"text":"Daddy?"},{"start":5.7,"end":6.66,"text":"Welcome back."},{"start":6.68,"end":6.82,"text":"Hi."},{"start":7.08,"end":8.04,"text":"How was your trip, honey?"},{"start":8.06,"end":8.78,"text":"Oh, it was great."},{"start":8.94,"end":11.79,"text":"You know, it was pretty thrilling to accept that peace prize for you."},{"start":12.05,"end":13.57,"text":"Oh, that's nice."},{"start":13.79,"end":15.25,"text":"People were friendly and everything."},{"start":15.27,"end":16.73,"text":"Oh, they were really ecstatic."},{"start":17.49,"end":18.07,"text":"So friendly."},{"start":18.35,"end":19.38,"text":"Massachusetts, too."},{"start":19.68,"end":19.9,"text":"Good."},{"start":20.18,"end":21.04,"text":"Middlesex Club."},{"start":21.26,"end":21.52,"text":"Good."},{"start":22.14,"end":22.8,"text":"Oh, that's a great club."},{"start":22.9,"end":24.46,"text":"You're having a busy day, aren't you?"},{"start":24.48,"end":25.6,"text":"Yeah, they're all kind of busy."},{"start":26,"end":27.09,"text":"I was going to tell you that"},{"start":27.52,"end":30.11,"text":"I'm going to have that reception for congressmen tonight."},{"start":30.15,"end":35.02,"text":"It's likely to run, in my opinion, until, you know, almost 7 o'clock."},{"start":57.02,"end":64.27,"text":"Daddy, you know, about changing the portrait, they're looking for a landscape, the Lincoln portrait."},{"start":64.85,"end":65.47,"text":"I see."},{"start":66.59,"end":67.85,"text":"They're looking very hard."},{"start":67.91,"end":70.34,"text":"Do you think it's better just to wait till we get the landscape?"},{"start":70.44,"end":70.84,"text":"Oh, yes."},{"start":70.96,"end":71.62,"text":"Wait, wait, wait."},{"start":71.64,"end":72.34,"text":"There's no greater."},{"start":72.4,"end":74.28,"text":"I just thought we ought to try to find something."},{"start":74.34,"end":74.74,"text":"I agree."},{"start":74.81,"end":75.69,"text":"Mother agrees, too."},{"start":75.73,"end":79.17,"text":"But a bright landscape to get one, something that's not dull."},{"start":79.27,"end":79.71,"text":"You know what?"},{"start":79.73,"end":83.82,"text":"They're looking for something like that beautiful crop seed that's on the second floor."},{"start":84.08,"end":86.87,"text":"Right by the elevator, that beautiful, don't you love that one?"},{"start":86.89,"end":87.66,"text":"Something like that."},{"start":87.82,"end":88.48,"text":"Right, honey."},{"start":88.5,"end":89.1,"text":"Something cherry."},{"start":89.14,"end":90.41,"text":"Something bright and colorful."},{"start":90.55,"end":91.25,"text":"Cherry, yeah."},{"start":91.27,"end":91.37,"text":"Okay."},{"start":91.55,"end":91.85,"text":"Good."},{"start":92.23,"end":93.09,"text":"All right, sweetie."},{"start":93.11,"end":93.46,"text":"Bye."},{"start":93.48,"end":94.32,"text":"I'll see you."},{"start":94.74,"end":94.82,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, discuss her recent trip to Massachusetts where she accepted a peace prize on his behalf at the Middlesex Club. 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