{"conversationCode":"045-023","tapeNumber":45,"conversationNumber":23,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-045-023","startDateTime":"1973-04-27T00:08:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-27T00:09:00.000Z","startDate":"26-Apr-1973","startTime":"7:08 PM","endDate":"26-Apr-1973","endTime":"7:09 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On April 26, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 7:08 pm to 7:09 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 045-023 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 45-23\n\nDate: April 26, 1973\nTime: 7:08 pm - 7:09 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 431-9N]\n\n     Ziegler’s telephone call to John W. Dean, III","filename":["045-023.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"045-022","nextCode":"045-024","transcript":[{"start":1.42,"end":4.04,"text":"I just canceled your call to Dean."},{"start":4.06,"end":4.56,"text":"Will you do that?"},{"start":5.76,"end":6.32,"text":"Go to Dean."},{"start":6.38,"end":6.56,"text":"Okay."},{"start":6.66,"end":7.16,"text":"Cancel it."},{"start":7.3,"end":7.79,"text":"Right."},{"start":7.8,"end":8.14,"text":"All right."},{"start":8.19,"end":8.73,"text":"Okay."},{"start":8.75,"end":8.99,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":9.09,"end":10.97,"text":"Just say that the matter's been covered."},{"start":11.01,"end":11.51,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":11.59,"end":12.01,"text":"Okay."},{"start":12.05,"end":13.95,"text":"And don't take it back if it comes back."},{"start":13.97,"end":19.54,"text":"Oh, John, just an inquiry here, but I've got the answer."},{"start":19.56,"end":20.36,"text":"You know what I mean?"},{"start":20.38,"end":20.88,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":20.96,"end":22.01,"text":"I can do that very coolly."},{"start":23.19,"end":23.29,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directs Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler to cancel a scheduled call to White House Counsel John Dean. Nixon instructs Ziegler to tell Dean that the matter in question has already been handled, effectively shutting down further communication on the topic. The President emphasizes maintaining a cool demeanor and remaining firm should Dean attempt to follow up on the inquiry.","topics":["John W. Dean III","Watergate scandal","White House communication","Crisis management","Ronald Ziegler"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T07:02:10.165Z"},"topicSlugs":["john-w-dean-iii","watergate-scandal","white-house-communication","crisis-management","ronald-ziegler"],"audioDurationSec":29,"audioFiles":[{"file":"045-023.mp3","bytes":927744,"durationSec":28.89,"bitrate":256874,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.713Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/045-023.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/045-023","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/45/conversation-045-023","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}