{"conversationCode":"045-051","tapeNumber":45,"conversationNumber":51,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-045-051","startDateTime":"1973-05-01T02:43:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-01T02:45:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Apr-1973","startTime":"10:43 PM","endDate":"30-Apr-1973","endTime":"10:45 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"White House operator; Cox, Tricia Nixon; Woods, Rose Mary; Kissinger, Henry A.;","description":"On April 30, 1973, White House operator, Tricia Nixon Cox, Rose Mary Woods, and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone from 10:43 pm to 10:45 pm. 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Rose Mary Woods can be heard in the background.\n\n[Begin conferral]\n\n     Telephone call from Kissinger\n\n[End conferral]\n\nThe President talked with Kissinger.\n\n     Watergate\n          -President’s speech\n                -Impact\n\n     Kissinger’s schedule\n           -Moscow trip\n\n     World peace\n\f                                              -36-\n\n                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                              Conversation No. 45-51 (cont’d)\n\n     Watergate\n          -President’s speech\n          -Press reaction\n          -Historical perspective","filename":["045-051.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["White House operator","Cox, Tricia Nixon","Woods, Rose Mary","Kissinger, Henry A."],"prevCode":"045-050","nextCode":"045-052","transcript":[{"start":0.69,"end":1.89,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":1.91,"end":3.59,"text":"Dr. Kissinger for the president."},{"start":3.61,"end":18.01,"text":"Just a moment, please."},{"start":18.03,"end":18.59,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":18.68,"end":20.72,"text":"Dr. Kissinger."},{"start":20.94,"end":21.2,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":21.66,"end":22.8,"text":"Hello, Mr. President."},{"start":22.82,"end":23.48,"text":"Hi, Henry."},{"start":24,"end":29.49,"text":"Well, that was a very difficult speech and a very courageous one."},{"start":29.51,"end":30.39,"text":"And I think"},{"start":30.95,"end":38.13,"text":"Long after this turmoil is forgotten, what you've done in the last years will be remembered, and what you will do in the next years."},{"start":41.78,"end":42.46,"text":"Well, we did."},{"start":42.73,"end":45.79,"text":"We must do the right thing, and we're going to do the right thing."},{"start":45.89,"end":47.13,"text":"There's no question."},{"start":47.15,"end":50.05,"text":"And when do you go to Moscow, Henry?"},{"start":50.08,"end":52.44,"text":"I'm leaving on Thursday evening, Mr. President."},{"start":52.56,"end":53.2,"text":"Through cheating."},{"start":53.66,"end":55.38,"text":"Fine, fine, fine."},{"start":55.4,"end":67.5,"text":"But there's absolutely no doubt that when this is over, that you'll make the same sort of decisions that got you to this point."},{"start":68.09,"end":75.18,"text":"The only thing that matters is peace in the world, and that's the thing that you and I have got to work for, Henry, and forget all this crap."},{"start":75.84,"end":77.8,"text":"It's pure crap, as you know."},{"start":78.75,"end":84.75,"text":"When this hysteria is over, Mr. President, I think matters will be seen in the right perspective."},{"start":85.02,"end":90.72,"text":"Imagine all your cross people are calling and gloating and saying, where will we finish this son of a bitch?"},{"start":90.75,"end":94.87,"text":"But they haven't, because they don't know me."},{"start":95.64,"end":97.17,"text":"They don't know this."},{"start":97.77,"end":103.42,"text":"And second, these things have to be seen in a historical perspective."},{"start":103.54,"end":104.84,"text":"They won't see it."},{"start":105.32,"end":106.56,"text":"No, they will not see it."},{"start":106.7,"end":110.27,"text":"But six months from now, they'll have some other excitement."},{"start":110.29,"end":110.85,"text":"Okay, Henry."},{"start":110.97,"end":111.83,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":111.85,"end":113.23,"text":"And it was very good."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Henry Kissinger called President Nixon to express support following a speech regarding the Watergate scandal, framing the President's actions as courageous and historically significant. Nixon dismissed the political turmoil and criticism as temporary \"hysteria\" and insisted that his primary focus remained on maintaining world peace. The two men briefly discussed the necessity of ignoring the scandal and confirmed the scheduling of Kissinger’s upcoming trip to Moscow.","topics":["Watergate","Henry Kissinger","Presidential speeches","Foreign policy","Moscow trip","Political crisis"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T07:04:54.588Z"},"topicSlugs":["watergate","henry-kissinger","presidential-speeches","foreign-policy","moscow-trip","political-crisis"],"audioDurationSec":122,"audioFiles":[{"file":"045-051.mp3","bytes":3897344,"durationSec":121.69,"bitrate":256207,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.713Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:44.619Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/045-051.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/045-051","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/45/conversation-045-051","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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