{"conversationCode":"045-056","tapeNumber":45,"conversationNumber":56,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-045-056","startDateTime":"1973-05-01T02:54:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-01T03:04:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Apr-1973","startTime":"10:54 PM","endDate":"30-Apr-1973","endTime":"11:04 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan); Eisenhower, Julie Nixon; Cox, Tricia Nixon; Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On April 30, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan) Nixon, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, Tricia Nixon Cox, and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:54 pm and 11:04 pm. 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(“Pat”) Nixon, Julie Nixon\nEisenhower, Tricia Nixon Cox, and unknown persons can be heard in the background.\n\n     Telephone call to Ronald L. Ziegler from Tricia Nixon Cox\n\nTricia Nixon Cox talked with Ziegler. The President and unknown persons can be heard in the\nbackground.\n\n     Watergate\n          -President’s speech\n                -Press reaction\n                      -Visit to press room\n                             -Reaction\n                -Veracity\n                      -Hank Truitt, Newsweek\n                             -Analysis\n          -Long-range implications\n                -President’s future leadership","filename":["045-056.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator","Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan)","Eisenhower, Julie Nixon","Cox, Tricia Nixon","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"045-055","nextCode":"045-057","transcript":[{"start":0.47,"end":5.56,"text":"Trisha's calling Mr. Ziegler."},{"start":6.2,"end":19.29,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":20.6,"end":21.68,"text":"That's right."},{"start":22.16,"end":22.67,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":22.69,"end":23.71,"text":"I have Mr. Ziegler."},{"start":23.73,"end":24.33,"text":"Okay, fine."},{"start":25.15,"end":25.39,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":25.65,"end":26.57,"text":"Yes, hello."},{"start":26.59,"end":27.74,"text":"Well, I'm Tricia."},{"start":27.76,"end":28.2,"text":"Hi, Tricia."},{"start":28.22,"end":28.28,"text":"Hi."},{"start":28.42,"end":28.96,"text":"Did you hear it?"},{"start":29.38,"end":30.12,"text":"Oh, very good."},{"start":30.14,"end":30.84,"text":"Wasn't it great?"},{"start":31.02,"end":31.69,"text":"It really was."},{"start":31.89,"end":33.35,"text":"I was really moved."},{"start":33.41,"end":35.77,"text":"I was wondering what the press reaction was."},{"start":36.24,"end":37.51,"text":"You know, just straight."},{"start":38.79,"end":43.26,"text":"We already got a little bit from Billy Graham, but I was wondering what you thought."},{"start":43.48,"end":48.53,"text":"I think the president going into the press room afterwards was great."},{"start":48.55,"end":50,"text":"It was a good reaction to that."},{"start":50.68,"end":51.84,"text":"It was a good reaction to what?"},{"start":51.82,"end":54.28,"text":"The president going into the press room afterwards."},{"start":54.3,"end":54.8,"text":"Oh, really?"},{"start":54.82,"end":55.37,"text":"Did you know that?"},{"start":55.38,"end":56.33,"text":"No, I didn't know that."},{"start":56.95,"end":58.45,"text":"He walked by the press room."},{"start":58.47,"end":60.93,"text":"Oh, I heard that he did, but I didn't know the reaction was good to that."},{"start":60.95,"end":61.67,"text":"That's interesting."},{"start":61.75,"end":62.84,"text":"No, it was very good."},{"start":62.85,"end":63.7,"text":"Great."},{"start":63.72,"end":65.26,"text":"And then how was the reaction to the speech?"},{"start":66.16,"end":66.84,"text":"I think very good."},{"start":67.28,"end":67.6,"text":"You do?"},{"start":67.78,"end":72.27,"text":"He stepped up to it, I think most of them think, and they believe him."},{"start":72.93,"end":73.59,"text":"That's good."},{"start":74.17,"end":78.54,"text":"And as Hank Truitt of Newsweek said, he said..."},{"start":78.91,"end":80.53,"text":"In many ways, it was eloquent."},{"start":80.55,"end":83.07,"text":"It was very difficult for the president to do."},{"start":83.09,"end":97.02,"text":"And I think, Tricia, quite frankly, and as you said directly, I think the press, since the difficulty of the decision and the difficulty of the situation, had fairly stepped up to move on."},{"start":97.14,"end":98.03,"text":"Good."},{"start":98.06,"end":99.39,"text":"That's a good report."},{"start":99.41,"end":104.05,"text":"I think, you know, the important thing is that now we do move on."},{"start":104.17,"end":105.13,"text":"Right."},{"start":105.67,"end":113.9,"text":"And the mistakes that were made by those people around the president, we, you know, forget now."},{"start":114,"end":115.53,"text":"And he moves on and does what he does."},{"start":115.65,"end":115.79,"text":"Right."},{"start":115.81,"end":116.83,"text":"Goes on to bigger things."},{"start":116.95,"end":118.33,"text":"Absolutely."},{"start":118.37,"end":118.57,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":118.59,"end":118.81,"text":"Good."},{"start":118.83,"end":120.43,"text":"I think that's a sense of thanks, Tricia."},{"start":120.51,"end":120.75,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":120.78,"end":121.38,"text":"Well, thank you."},{"start":121.4,"end":122.44,"text":"I really appreciate that."},{"start":122.5,"end":123.88,"text":"And I'm going to tell Daddy, okay?"},{"start":123.9,"end":124,"text":"Okay."},{"start":124.02,"end":124.38,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":124.44,"end":126.77,"text":"Bye-bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Tricia Nixon Cox initiated a telephone call to Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler to gauge the media's reception following a nationally televised address by President Nixon regarding the Watergate scandal. Ziegler reported that the press responded favorably, particularly noting that the President’s decision to visit the press room personally bolstered his standing. He expressed optimism that the administration could now move past the errors of subordinates and focus on the President’s future leadership objectives.","topics":["Watergate scandal","Press relations","Public opinion","Presidential communication","Ronald Ziegler"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T07:05:24.102Z"},"topicSlugs":["watergate-scandal","press-relations","public-opinion","presidential-communication","ronald-ziegler"],"audioDurationSec":132,"audioFiles":[{"file":"045-056.mp3","bytes":4214784,"durationSec":131.59,"bitrate":256243,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.712Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:44.620Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/045-056.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/045-056","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/45/conversation-045-056","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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