{"conversationCode":"045-060","tapeNumber":45,"conversationNumber":60,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-045-060","startDateTime":"1973-05-01T03:13:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-01T03:14:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Apr-1973","startTime":"11:13 PM","endDate":"30-Apr-1973","endTime":"11:14 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Cox, Tricia Nixon; Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Eisenhower, [Dwight] David, II; Woods, Rose Mary;","description":"On April 30, 1973, Tricia Nixon Cox, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, [Dwight] David Eisenhower, II, and Rose Mary Woods talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:13 pm and 11:14 pm. 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[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II can be\nhear in the background.\n\f                                                       -43-\n\n                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                                             Conversation No. 45-60 (cont’d)\n\n       Request for telephone call\n            -Rose Mary Woods\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 6 s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nTricia Nixon Cox conferred with the President.\n\n[Begin conferral]\n\n       Watergate\n            -Nelson A. Rockefeller\n                 -Telephone call\n\n[End conferral]\n\n[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n*****************************************************************\n\nTricia Cox talked with Rose Mary Woods. The President can be heard in the background.\n\n       Watergate\n            -President’s speech\n            -Telephone calls\n                  -Winton M. (“Red”) Blount\n                  -Ronald W. Reagan\n                  -Nelson A. Rockefeller\n                  -Charles W. Colson\n                        -Message\n                        -Patricia Colson\n\f                                                -44-\n\n                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                             Conversation No. 45-60 (cont’d)\n\n                          -Public reaction\n                                -New Majority\n                          -Law partner\n                                -Reaction\n                    -Staff coordination\n                          -Stephen B. Bull","filename":["045-060.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Cox, Tricia Nixon","Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator","Eisenhower, [Dwight] David, II","Woods, Rose Mary"],"prevCode":"045-059","nextCode":"045-061","transcript":[{"start":0.49,"end":15.28,"text":"Hello, would you please ring Rosewoods in the West Hall?"},{"start":15.74,"end":16.72,"text":"Yes."},{"start":16.88,"end":18.68,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":28.6,"end":32.12,"text":"You haven't heard from Rocky?"},{"start":32.14,"end":35.47,"text":"Maybe you have."},{"start":35.49,"end":36.11,"text":"Hi, Rosie."},{"start":36.37,"end":38.37,"text":"Had he gotten any word about more calls?"},{"start":38.47,"end":42.57,"text":"Well, what's happened, let's see, with Red Blunt called."},{"start":42.77,"end":43.73,"text":"Red Blunt called."},{"start":43.75,"end":44.59,"text":"He's between places."},{"start":44.62,"end":45.86,"text":"Governor Reagan, did you get him?"},{"start":46.02,"end":46.82,"text":"Yeah, we got him."},{"start":46.84,"end":47.14,"text":"Got him."},{"start":48,"end":48.9,"text":"All right."},{"start":50.88,"end":51,"text":"Rocky."},{"start":51.02,"end":51.9,"text":"No, what is he saying?"},{"start":51.92,"end":53.8,"text":"He's got a... Rocky."},{"start":53.82,"end":55.1,"text":"Did Rocky call?"},{"start":55.12,"end":55.81,"text":"Um..."},{"start":56.21,"end":61.18,"text":"I don't know whether Rocky, I couldn't find that out because the calls went to two or three people."},{"start":61.26,"end":62.38,"text":"Chuck Colson called."},{"start":62.87,"end":63.07,"text":"Uh-huh."},{"start":63.13,"end":64.07,"text":"Chuck Colson called?"},{"start":64.09,"end":67.2,"text":"Yeah, and he said that he and Patty had called."},{"start":68.11,"end":70.67,"text":"He didn't want to talk to the president."},{"start":70.71,"end":71.73,"text":"He didn't."},{"start":71.75,"end":73.07,"text":"He didn't want to bother him."},{"start":73.11,"end":74.23,"text":"What he wanted to tell him."},{"start":74.25,"end":75.09,"text":"Colson didn't."},{"start":75.11,"end":76.24,"text":"But he did want to tell you this."},{"start":76.46,"end":87.53,"text":"Tell the president that Patty and he had been calling all their friends around the country, what you would call a cross-section of the new majority."},{"start":87.67,"end":87.95,"text":"Right."},{"start":88.66,"end":91.76,"text":"There is no doubt the country is with him all the way."},{"start":91.78,"end":94.22,"text":"And they say there's no doubt the country is with you all the way."},{"start":95.03,"end":95.12,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":95.39,"end":110.21,"text":"and that even he talked to one of his law partners who for the first time in 25 years said i really felt for him he is a sincere man that's great"},{"start":111.47,"end":115.26,"text":"Let's see."},{"start":115.94,"end":117.12,"text":"Anybody else?"},{"start":117.14,"end":121.2,"text":"Well, our problem is, as I say, they're scattered tonight."},{"start":121.24,"end":123.62,"text":"Yeah, but there's so many different people taking the calls."},{"start":123.67,"end":127.95,"text":"Yeah, but we'll work this out because Steve and I have already talked about it."},{"start":128.03,"end":130.43,"text":"We're going to work it good for the future."},{"start":130.73,"end":131.15,"text":"Great."},{"start":131.17,"end":131.57,"text":"Uh-huh."},{"start":131.59,"end":131.93,"text":"Good."},{"start":131.95,"end":133.13,"text":"Well, that's interesting, Rosie."},{"start":133.15,"end":133.67,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":133.85,"end":136.64,"text":"All right, honey."},{"start":136.66,"end":137.5,"text":"Okay, bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Tricia Nixon Cox and Rose Mary Woods discuss the incoming public and political reaction to President Nixon’s recent Watergate-related speech. The conversation focuses on logging telephone calls from key figures such as Nelson Rockefeller, Ronald Reagan, and Winton Blount to gauge national support. Woods reports that despite logistical challenges in tracking communications, early indicators from loyalists like Charles Colson suggest the President maintains strong support from his core base.","topics":["Watergate","Public Opinion","Nixon Administration","Telephone Communications","Political Support"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T07:05:46.763Z"},"topicSlugs":["watergate","public-opinion","nixon-administration","telephone-communications","political-support"],"audioDurationSec":141,"audioFiles":[{"file":"045-060.mp3","bytes":4503552,"durationSec":140.64,"bitrate":256174,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.713Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:44.621Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/045-060.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/045-060","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/45/conversation-045-060","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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