{"conversationCode":"045-096","tapeNumber":45,"conversationNumber":96,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-045-096","startDateTime":"1973-05-01T21:38:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-01T21:40:00.000Z","startDate":"1-May-1973","startTime":"5:38 PM","endDate":"1-May-1973","endTime":"5:40 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Keyes, Paul W.;","description":"On May 1, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Paul W. Keyes talked on the telephone from 5:38 pm to 5:40 pm. 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Bull’s office\n\n     The Carpenters\n          -Speaker volume\n          -Electronic equipment\n          -Appearance\n          -German language greeting\n                -Willy Brandt\n\n     Watergate\n          -President’s speech\n          -Reaction\n                -West Coast\n                -President’s responsibility\n          -Closing\n                -Religious reference\n          -President’s future work","filename":["045-096.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Keyes, Paul W."],"prevCode":"045-095","nextCode":"045-097","transcript":[{"start":0.99,"end":2.06,"text":"Well, yes, sir."},{"start":2.78,"end":3.16,"text":"Where are you?"},{"start":3.52,"end":5.28,"text":"Over in Steve Bull's office, sir."},{"start":5.38,"end":6.84,"text":"How'd you get along with the carpenters?"},{"start":6.86,"end":8.08,"text":"Oh, fine, fine."},{"start":8.2,"end":10.47,"text":"If I can ever get them to turn the volume down tonight."},{"start":11.51,"end":22.12,"text":"You know, they bring in all this electronic equipment, and that's their bit, but I've told them that they would blast the first row out onto the west lawn if they don't get it down, but I think they will."},{"start":22.44,"end":23.54,"text":"But they're delightful."},{"start":23.56,"end":24.68,"text":"They're clean-cut kids."},{"start":25.18,"end":25.69,"text":"And they're nice."},{"start":25.75,"end":29.45,"text":"And they're going to say good evening in German to William Grant."},{"start":29.49,"end":30.57,"text":"So it'll be very nice, sir."},{"start":30.59,"end":31.85,"text":"Great, great, great."},{"start":31.93,"end":33.68,"text":"How do you feel?"},{"start":33.7,"end":34.06,"text":"I feel fine."},{"start":34.22,"end":35.08,"text":"Good for you, sir."},{"start":35.52,"end":37.58,"text":"How was the reaction to the speech today?"},{"start":37.6,"end":38.12,"text":"Very good."},{"start":38.32,"end":38.94,"text":"From everybody."},{"start":38.96,"end":39.85,"text":"You checked from people?"},{"start":39.95,"end":40.69,"text":"Absolutely."},{"start":40.71,"end":41.85,"text":"How about the coast?"},{"start":41.87,"end":42.41,"text":"Absolutely."},{"start":42.43,"end":44.01,"text":"That's where I talk to most."},{"start":44.07,"end":45.87,"text":"Yeah, what'd they say?"},{"start":45.89,"end":49.44,"text":"Well, they thought it was a very statesman, a very open and honest thing."},{"start":49.48,"end":52.04,"text":"And you took a great deal of credit."},{"start":52.02,"end":54.27,"text":"for saying that you can't pass this around."},{"start":54.31,"end":55.13,"text":"It belongs to me."},{"start":56.27,"end":57.27,"text":"You think that was a good idea?"},{"start":57.37,"end":58.11,"text":"Absolutely, sir."},{"start":59.09,"end":65.28,"text":"I also heard excellent comment, and I'm not just saying this because I know you were concerned, but it was volunteered to me."},{"start":65.32,"end":69.47,"text":"I didn't ask the question about God bless America and God bless each and every one of you."},{"start":69.49,"end":74.86,"text":"One person said of anybody in this country that says God bless America, they would rather hear it from your mouth, sir."},{"start":75.68,"end":76.74,"text":"Yes, it's good."},{"start":76.82,"end":77.28,"text":"It's good."},{"start":77.31,"end":77.89,"text":"It's positive."},{"start":77.91,"end":79.57,"text":"Sometimes you got to put in a little emotion."},{"start":79.81,"end":81.33,"text":"I don't do that very often."},{"start":81.41,"end":82.33,"text":"I ought to do a little more."},{"start":82.35,"end":83.3,"text":"Well, that's what I say."},{"start":83.36,"end":84.8,"text":"Don't run afraid of it."},{"start":84.84,"end":87.02,"text":"I think it's good and it's something they understand."},{"start":88.24,"end":88.56,"text":"I do."},{"start":89.58,"end":90.11,"text":"Well, so do we."},{"start":90.25,"end":90.83,"text":"God love you."},{"start":90.87,"end":92.79,"text":"Well, I think we're on the right track now."},{"start":92.81,"end":93.27,"text":"I hope so."},{"start":93.35,"end":93.71,"text":"I know so."},{"start":93.73,"end":94.29,"text":"On the way back."},{"start":94.31,"end":95.21,"text":"Just listen."},{"start":95.44,"end":96.98,"text":"That was yesterday's business."},{"start":97.02,"end":98.12,"text":"Now there's other things to do."},{"start":98.22,"end":98.66,"text":"That's right."},{"start":98.94,"end":100,"text":"Take care of yourself."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and television producer Paul W. Keyes discuss the logistics for an upcoming musical performance by The Carpenters, focusing on sound quality and their planned German-language greeting for Willy Brandt. The conversation then pivots to the public reception of Nixon's recent Watergate speech, with Keyes reporting positive feedback from the West Coast regarding the President’s acceptance of responsibility. 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